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  • bphx123
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 69

    XDM question transferring

    My father lives in Arizona and has two 9mm XDM. He wants to gift one to me. I will be there for a visit next month, can I have him write me a letter that he gifted the gun to me and just drive back to CA with the xdm, or how do I go about having him gift the gun to me? Any help is appreciated.

    thanks
  • #2
    WootSauce
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 292



    Short answer? No, You need to transfer through an FFL (in CA) *EDIT: [what I deleted was] FUD*

    EDIT: PS welcome to calguns, read the sticky's, they are your friends
    Last edited by WootSauce; 10-11-2012, 7:50 PM.
    Everything I say is probably wrong.

    Originally posted by Steyr_223
    dude, its a pump-action..You can put a live weasel or hollowed d**do on the barrel and it would be legal...

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    • #3
      Twiggz
      Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 242

      Also make sure you block the mags at 10rds or disassemble them in to "mag kits" before you bring them (or ship them) in to CA.

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      • #4
        bphx123
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 69

        How do I know if I am exempt, from going trough SSE.

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        • #5
          bphx123
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 69

          My idea was when I go for visit to take the gun back without any magazines. Once I get here I was going to order me a 10 round mag. But if I have to go trough FFL and all this stuff, not worth my time.

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          • #6
            littlejake
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 2168

            Originally posted by bphx123
            How do I know if I am exempt, from going trough SSE.
            Are you law enforcement? If not, you're not exempt.
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            • #7
              Twiggz
              Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 242

              Originally posted by bphx123
              My idea was when I go for visit to take the gun back without any magazines. Once I get here I was going to order me a 10 round mag. But if I have to go trough FFL and all this stuff, not worth my time.
              Unless its a .45 there are no 10 round XDm mags on the market as far as I know.

              It is perfectly legal to bring "mag kits" in to the state. The XDm mags come apart very easily. There are threads on here that show you how to block the 9mm and .40 mags to 10rds.

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              • #8
                WootSauce
                Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 292

                Originally posted by littlejake
                Are you law enforcement? If not, you're not exempt.
                ^^^ this

                Originally posted by bphx123
                My idea was when I go for visit to take the gun back without any magazines. Once I get here I was going to order me a 10 round mag. But if I have to go trough FFL and all this stuff, not worth my time.
                Yup, you sure do. Sucks, I know. Sorry to burst your bubble
                Everything I say is probably wrong.

                Originally posted by Steyr_223
                dude, its a pump-action..You can put a live weasel or hollowed d**do on the barrel and it would be legal...

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                • #9
                  Czsp-01-9mm
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1853

                  its an out of state intrafamiilal transfer, Intra-familial gift exempt from the approved list due to PC 12132(b)

                  You find a CA FFL dealer that is knowledgable and willing to do an out-of-state intra-familial firearm gift.
                  Once you do that, he ships the firearm to the CA FFL dealer (with a letter stating it's a gift from fatherr to son).
                  Once the CA FFL dealer recieves it, you 4473/DROS + 10 day wait + pay transfer fee.
                  After the 10 day wait, you take home & enjoy.
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                  • #10
                    alfred1222
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 7331

                    Originally posted by Czsp-01-9mm
                    its an out of state intrafamiilal transfer, Intra-familial gift exempt from the approved list due to PC 12132(b)

                    You find a CA FFL dealer that is knowledgable and willing to do an out-of-state intra-familial firearm gift.
                    Once you do that, he ships the firearm to the CA FFL dealer (with a letter stating it's a gift from fatherr to son).
                    Once the CA FFL dealer recieves it, you 4473/DROS + 10 day wait + pay transfer fee.
                    After the 10 day wait, you take home & enjoy.
                    And how would the FFL DROS it without doing an SSE??
                    Originally posted by Kestryll
                    This guy is a complete and total idiot.
                    /thread.

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                    • #11
                      Tripper
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 7628

                      Originally posted by Czsp-01-9mm
                      its an out of state intrafamiilal transfer, Intra-familial gift exempt from the approved list due to PC 12132(b)

                      You find a CA FFL dealer that is knowledgable and willing to do an out-of-state intra-familial firearm gift.
                      Once you do that, he ships the firearm to the CA FFL dealer (with a letter stating it's a gift from fatherr to son).
                      Once the CA FFL dealer recieves it, you 4473/DROS + 10 day wait + pay transfer fee.
                      After the 10 day wait, you take home & enjoy.
                      I concur
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                      • #12
                        Tripper
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 7628

                        Cool just seen this thread too
                        XDm 10 round mags it look like
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                        • #13
                          WootSauce
                          Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 292

                          Originally posted by Czsp-01-9mm
                          its an out of state intrafamiilal transfer, Intra-familial gift exempt from the approved list due to PC 12132(b)

                          You find a CA FFL dealer that is knowledgable and willing to do an out-of-state intra-familial firearm gift.
                          Once you do that, he ships the firearm to the CA FFL dealer (with a letter stating it's a gift from fatherr to son).
                          Once the CA FFL dealer recieves it, you 4473/DROS + 10 day wait + pay transfer fee.
                          After the 10 day wait, you take home & enjoy.


                          from the above
                          California allows Non-FFL transfers among certain family members within California.

                          From the perspective of CA State law, Yes, intra-familial transfers are exempt, but this is a INTERSTATE intra-familial transfer therefore [you are right, my bad].



                          From the above
                          The Feds do not have the concept of 'immediate family' that California does. Intrafamilial interstate transfers are legal, but still must use a California-licensed FFL.

                          Remember that handguns purchased from out of state, routed through a California FFL, must be on the California Roster, or the California FFL may not deliver it to the buyer.

                          Note the repeated use of the expression willing FFL; California FFls need not accept out of state transfers. That's a business decision, not a legal requirement.
                          Originally posted by Czsp-01-9mm
                          Once the CA FFL dealer recieves it, you 4473/DROS + 10 day wait + pay transfer fee.
                          *EDIT: FUD*

                          (EDIT: this topic has been beaten to death over and over again, I've posted all three relevant FAQ's, that should cover everything)
                          Last edited by WootSauce; 10-11-2012, 7:48 PM.
                          Everything I say is probably wrong.

                          Originally posted by Steyr_223
                          dude, its a pump-action..You can put a live weasel or hollowed d**do on the barrel and it would be legal...

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                          • #14
                            Tripper
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 7628

                            Yes it is exempt
                            It just has to go through FFL
                            as opposed to handing it over and filing the oplaw
                            Last edited by Tripper; 10-11-2012, 6:00 PM.
                            WTB NAA Belt Buckle
                            MILITARY STRETCHER/RADIATION DETECTION KIT

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                            • #15
                              Czsp-01-9mm
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 1853

                              This was told to me by Liberian , he told me the same thing when I transferred and off list from out of state, the key word is gift here
                              Last edited by Czsp-01-9mm; 10-11-2012, 6:35 PM.
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