night sights

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Ah, no, I have no problem discerning the difference between night sights and weapon mounted light.

As a matter of fact, I prefer fiber optic sights versus tritium.

Nice discussion over here regarding needing night sights...

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/90963-night-sights-really-necessary.html

[Shenaniguns]

Ah, no, I have no problem discerning the difference between night sights and weapon mounted light.

As a matter of fact, I prefer fiber optic sights versus tritium.

Nice discussion over here regarding needing night sights...

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/...necessary.html

Thanks but I've read plenty thru the years, I've drawn in low light conditions as well and will stick to having a Tritium Front Sight minimum on my defensive firearms. If I can use the sights than I will and I want to be on the front sight asap, and the tritium dot helps me index where I'm aiming even if I need to focus back on the threat.

You may want to check this out:

http://pistol-training.com/articles/handgun-low-light-essentials

[HighLander51]

You can't shoot what you can't see. Night sights have an advantage in low light, not no light, conditions. For carry and home defense, that is an advantage. A weapon mounted light is needed in no light conditions, and is better than trying to hold a gun and flashlight. The other advantage is you can find your gun in pitch black conditions with night sights.

[locosway]

Hi Loco,

I very much respect your extensive credentials as a trainer and value your opinion so please, I am not arguing the point, just want to be more educated about the point of view.

You state if you have a rail, you should have a light and train with it, if not, use a handheld light. But yet you say every HD\SD gun should have nightsights.

What are night sights going to do that regular sights couldn't if I'm already illuminating the target with a 50 lumen or more handheld light? I was holding my Ruger SR9 (has just white dots) with a handheld cheap chicom flashlight and in all cases of limited testing, the bloom from the light was enough to clearly see my sights.

I guess that yes, night sights will help me hit the dark subject running through my house at night but wouldn't that be reckless to shoot and not know what my target is\was?

Again, not arguing just wanting to learn that's all. And yes, I have never taken a low light class.

PCLL

There are times when you can see your target, but not your sights. Case in point, I have a long backyard and the lighting changes over the course of the length. Depending on where I'm standing, or where an intruder might stand, the lighting could be any number of combinations. This is what lead me to change my mind about needing night sights. I very well could see a target, but not be able to see my sights.

You may be able to get your sight picture against a lighted target, even if you're in the dark, but tritium makes this much much easier, and allows you to not focus so much on your sights.

Look, a lot of people teach the front sight focus thing, etc, to ad nauseam. There's even a school named after this whole practice. At close distances and under stress, you may not have a lot of time to get a sight picture. Darkness just makes it worse. This is why I teach index or point shooting, because it's something that's needed as it's reality.

The other nice thing about tritium sights is they always glow. Batteries die, flashlights break, and things happen. Tritium sights are fairly robust and just work all the time.

Another benefit which isn't talked about often is being able to see your gun at night. If your gun is in a drawer or closet or safe, you don't need lights to find your HD gun. The tritium glows and you can just grab it.

Ah, no, I have no problem discerning the difference between night sights and weapon mounted light.

As a matter of fact, I prefer fiber optic sights versus tritium.

Nice discussion over here regarding needing night sights...

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/...necessary.html

Except FO sights do NOTHING at night. If you go TFO, that's different, but you didn't say that.

Have you fired a gun in low light or no light conditions? Most people who shoot at night or use their firearm at night understand the need for not only tritium sights, but a good weapon mounted and hand held light.

[tal3nt]

I don't think many people will use night sights as their primary form of lighting in that scenario. If so, then yeah that could be bad. Even with a flashlight, normal iron sights can be difficult to see. The tritium glow can help with getting a quicker sight picture, as you can see them regardless of the orientation of the flashlight.

You are wrong. Plain black iron sights have the best clarity when used in the dark with the light on. The sight picture on night sights go to sh*t once you hit the light. Night sights by nature have a fat front blade (bad). Night sights identify one thing: your gun.

[tal3nt]

Also, for those that are against rail mounted lights on a handgun: A gun with a light is the same as a gun without a light. Only it has a light. That you don't have to use if you choose not to. But you have the option. So yeah, rail mounted light is a no brainer.

[paul0660]

nights sights are good for finding your gun at night. Get a little flashlight.

This young man has it right, if awkwardly:



This simulated person might explain it better:

[paul0660]

Also, for those that are against rail mounted lights on a handgun: A gun with a light is the same as a gun without a light. Only it has a light. That you don't have to use if you choose not to. But you have the option. So yeah, rail mounted light is a no brainer.

There is a problem with rail mounted light holsters, for instance, big, fugly, and there aren't any.

[tal3nt]

nights sights are good for finding your gun at night. Get a little flashlight.

This young man has it right, if awkwardly:



This simulated person might explain it better:

You said "little flashlight", kid has a damn foot long maglight haha

[tal3nt]

There is a problem with rail mounted light holsters, for instance, big, fugly, and there aren't any.

Holster? I thought we're talkin' HD

[paul0660]

Holster? I thought we're talkin' HD

No, we are talking about glow in the dark paint.

Lemme go back.

[tal3nt]

Wow, I guess you're right. Why the hell are we talking about glow in the dark paint lol. On to the next thread.

[paul0660]

tal3nt, when I play Telephone, I want you on my team.

[tal3nt]

It'd be an honor

[DRAB_81]

There are times when you can see your target, but not your sights. Case in point, I have a long backyard and the lighting changes over the course of the length. Depending on where I'm standing, or where an intruder might stand, the lighting could be any number of combinations. This is what lead me to change my mind about needing night sights. I very well could see a target, but not be able to see my sights.

If you can see "a" target in your long backyard, but it's too dark to see your non-tritium sights 2 feet in front of your face, how do you know it's a threat? How can you be sure it's not your neighbor or your 16yr old sneaking back in after curfew? Maybe you don't have kids, but I'm sure you get the point. Plus it isn't exactly legal to smoke someone just for being in your yard, but I'm sure you know that.