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[luckyduck]

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[scootle]

Ejection patterns can be hard to diagnose. Not being left handed, I can only say make sure she's got good shooting form (e.g. no limp wrist or other such things that might orient the ejection port differently during recoil). Maybe take a video and post it (if she doesn't mind) and it'd be easier to see where the casings are flying?

I know on CA-compliant magazines blocked to 10-rounds, the 10th round is VERY tight due to the lawyers and such, so if you attempt to insert a 10-round (full) magazine against a closed breech/slide (going to a 10+1 configuration, basically), it can be very very difficult to seat properly. Believe me, when doing "tac" reloads in training settings, I've had the embarrassing and very obvious failure of a full magazine dropping to the deck more than once...

If you are having this problem with not-filled mags, I'm not sure what else could be going on... maybe other M&P owners can chime in with ideas. You will always have to overcome a little bit of the magazine follower tension when you push that top round against the closed breech, so maybe this is what you are experiencing. Hard to say.

Regardless, welcome to the M&P club!

[luckyduck]

Ejection patterns can be hard to diagnose. Not being left handed, I can only say make sure she's got good shooting form (e.g. no limp wrist or other such things that might orient the ejection port differently during recoil). Maybe take a video and post it (if she doesn't mind) and it'd be easier to see where the casings are flying?

I know on CA-compliant magazines blocked to 10-rounds, the 10th round is VERY tight due to the lawyers and such, so if you attempt to insert a 10-round (full) magazine against a closed breech/slide (going to a 10+1 configuration, basically), it can be very very difficult to seat properly. Believe me, when doing "tac" reloads in training settings, I've had the embarrassing and very obvious failure of a full magazine dropping to the deck more than once...

If you are having this problem with not-filled mags, I'm not sure what else could be going on... maybe other M&P owners can chime in with ideas. You will always have to overcome a little bit of the magazine follower tension when you push that top round against the closed breech, so maybe this is what you are experiencing. Hard to say.

Regardless, welcome to the M&P club!

Thanks. I wasn't going with 10+1. I noticed the extra resistance whether there were 10 rounds in the magazine or 1 (just verified with a snap cap) with the slide closed. I'm not too worried about it but I wasn't fond almost dropping the mag a few times.

[scglock]

Everything you stated seems pretty normal. Your friend is likely limp wristing and causing the shells to eject abnormally. You need to show her proper grip and stance so the gun doesn't recoil out of her hands/cause shells to eject weird. Does it happen with you? If it doesn't happen to you, the gun is fine.

The magazine for all of my guns is definitely harder to seat if the mag is fully loaded and slide forward. You just have to slam it in and tap it afterwards to ensure you fully seat it against the force of the loaded mag's spring.

Welcome to the m&p club

[scootle]

Thanks. I wasn't going with 10+1. I noticed the extra resistance whether there were 10 rounds in the magazine or 1 (just verified with a snap cap) with the slide closed. I'm not too worried about it but I wasn't fond almost dropping the mag a few times.

There will be a little resistance since the top round will contact the bottom of the slide with the breech closed. You are most likely feeling the tension in the magazine follower that must be slightly compressed to allow this contact (this is why 10+1 is so hard... there is almost no room for the 10th round to move against the magazine block). Obviously, with the breech open, the top round goes right up into the breech near the feed ramp, ready to be stripped off the magazine when the slide moves forward into battery.

[roushstage2]

A left-handed shooter with a right-handed gun is likely the problem, though as said, the shooting position/stance could be playing a part in it too.

A full mag is harder to insert into all of my guns if the slide or bolt isn't locked back. Slam that thing in there! It isn't going to hurt it!

[Yerman]

Tell her to stop limp wristing the gun and slam that magazine home when you are inserting it. Make sure it seats well and get in the habit of a strong single stroke powerful magazine insert. This is shooting, not knitting ;-) Put it in like your life depends on it.

[luckyduck]

Will do!

Thanks for advice.

[Tjfearl]

I shoot offhand with my M&P all the time, but I usually stand Isosceles. Im guessing your friend was using a Weaver stance and had her body angled which would put her in the line of ejecting brass. you could have her try standing isosceles postion. Or she could be limp wristing too. My problem is the brass ricochets off the lane separators, but that isn't the gun's fault.

[ltspongebob]

Shot my first 100 rounds today with my M&P9 FS.

Problems:

1. A friend that is left handed had spend casings flying into her shoulder and forehead. I had no such issues (I'm a right handed shooter).
2. For some reason, with the slide in released position, if I inserted a mag with any amount of rounds it became difficult to insert it easily. When I first got the gun, and would practice loading, inserting and racking with snap caps, the magazine would click into place without the slide locked back with little effort. Now it requires a bit more of a shove to get it in there when, again, the slide is not locked back. When the slide IS locked back, it's no trouble to insert a mag into place. Is there something in the slide that's causing the obstruction or is this normal?

I'm left-handed and I don't have the same problem unless I'm limp-wristing it because I'm getting fatigued, however that happens to my wife when she is shooting it, and she is right-handed. So I'm guessing it's the wrist.

[k1dude]

Yup. Limp wristing. It's hard for some women to overcome without more time behind the trigger. Some tiny women and kids don't have the strength/arm mass to prevent it.

[Greez82]

Shot my first 100 rounds today with my M&P9 FS.

Problems:

1. A friend that is left handed had spend casings flying into her shoulder and forehead. I had no such issues (I'm a right handed shooter).
2. For some reason, with the slide in released position, if I inserted a mag with any amount of rounds it became difficult to insert it easily. When I first got the gun, and would practice loading, inserting and racking with snap caps, the magazine would click into place without the slide locked back with little effort. Now it requires a bit more of a shove to get it in there when, again, the slide is not locked back. When the slide IS locked back, it's no trouble to insert a mag into place. Is there something in the slide that's causing the obstruction or is this normal?

my Mp 9mm fs is about 3 months old. i had the same issue with shells ejecting in my face for the first couple hundered rounds. they are now ejecting in the 3-4 o'clock area.

with 10 rounds I am unable to load a mag. The mags are super tight with 10 rounds. I beleive there is info on how to reduce the spring tension. try a google search or youtube.

[Digerati47]

I shot my M&P9 left handed (my weak hand) and at first I get an occasional brass on the head or shoulder. As my grip improved, this became a non-issue. It may also be as the pistol was broken in more too.

As for the mag being a little resistant to click in when the action is closed, just slam it in there. I was a little hesitant at first too, but over 3k rounds later the pistol and mags are still fine with no issues.

One curious thing that happens with my pistol- if I slam (not hard, but a solid feed) a mag in when slide locked, the slide autoMagically releases. I've read that this is normal for M&P's on some forums, and on others it isn't. If I just push it in, it's fine. Makes reloading much faster though! Does yours do this as well?



//Digz

[Tjfearl]

One curious thing that happens with my pistol- if I slam (not hard, but a solid feed) a mag in when slide locked, the slide autoMagically releases. I've read that this is normal for M&P's on some forums, and on others it isn't. If I just push it in, it's fine. Makes reloading much faster though! Does yours do this as well?



//Digz

Mine does with the weight of a full mag. Doesn't usually do it with an empty mag though.

[Irv]

Check that she is squared with the target then make sure she is not holding the firearm on the left side of body. A few lefties tend to keep the firearm to the left instead of center. This puts her closer to getting brass on her. I am a lefty.