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  • ROCKETW19
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 705

    FN 5.7

    I know newbi question but what is the difference between the USG and IOM versions? my search had alot of talk about the two but no one actually explained the difference.
    I am really liking that 5.7 round I know newbi again but I never heard of it untill the other day.

    Just got my wife a wilson combat and now i want a new one also,lol I am not really a handgun guy but the FN is so intresting to me. I was gonna get a full sized Wilson but 1 is enough I want either this 5.7 or a glock 45 all decked out by glock worx. of coares either gun will be far more than I need but I dont mind.
  • #2
    Arson
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1818

    The Five-seven IOM (Individual Officer Model) was the first model of the Five-seven pistol to be offered to civilian shooters, debuting in 2004. It is now discontinued in favor of the USG model. The IOM was similar in its basic design to the Tactical version, but differed in that it had a MIL-STD-1913 (Picatinny) accessory rail, a serrated slide and trigger guard, and fully adjustable sights. It also had a magazine safety mechanism incorporated into the design, to prevent the pistol from being fired without a magazine inserted

    The Five-seven USG (United States Government) is currently the standard version of the Five-seven pistol offered by FN Herstal. This model was approved by the ATF as a sporting firearm in 2004, replacing the IOM model. The USG retains the changes that were incorporated in the IOM, but it has further modifications, including a conventionally-shaped square trigger guard, a tightly checkered grip pattern, and a larger, reversible magazine release. It was originally offered with adjustable sights, but since 2009 it has also been offered with low profile fixed sights. The USG model has a black frame finish with grey controls as standard, but it has also been offered in limited quantities with black controls.
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    • #3
      ROCKETW19
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 705

      Originally posted by Arson
      The Five-seven IOM (Individual Officer Model) was the first model of the Five-seven pistol to be offered to civilian shooters, debuting in 2004. It is now discontinued in favor of the USG model. The IOM was similar in its basic design to the Tactical version, but differed in that it had a MIL-STD-1913 (Picatinny) accessory rail, a serrated slide and trigger guard, and fully adjustable sights. It also had a magazine safety mechanism incorporated into the design, to prevent the pistol from being fired without a magazine inserted

      The Five-seven USG (United States Government) is currently the standard version of the Five-seven pistol offered by FN Herstal. This model was approved by the ATF as a sporting firearm in 2004, replacing the IOM model. The USG retains the changes that were incorporated in the IOM, but it has further modifications, including a conventionally-shaped square trigger guard, a tightly checkered grip pattern, and a larger, reversible magazine release. It was originally offered with adjustable sights, but since 2009 it has also been offered with low profile fixed sights. The USG model has a black frame finish with grey controls as standard, but it has also been offered in limited quantities with black controls.
      I guess that is why I could not find any IOM version on their website,lol
      thank you so much for the very detailed description.
      So when I goto shop to buy I will only see the USG version anyways. but still good to know.

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      • #4
        phrogg111
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 750

        You just heard of the Five Seven? Here's the real low down on the 5.7x28 round:

        -Same muzzle energy as +P 9mm, but only if you get the most expensive 5.7x28 rounds that are loaded at 395 ft-lbs of energy

        -Standard 5.7x28 FN civilian loads - those blue tip rounds - have within 5% of the muzzle energy of a .22 magnum out of a rifle length barrel. .22 magnum out of a pistol has considerably less muzzle energy, though.

        -Not armor piercing, unless you're an LEO and can get around the federal AP handgun ammo ban

        -Good round, nice low recoil, nice low weight in the gun, high capacity (not in this state)... I bought a Glock 17c because it's basically going to do the same thing (capacity and stopping power wise), but not be accurate out to 150 yards. Oh, it's also less than half the price.

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        • #5
          nightwolf0215
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 1728

          If the gun fascinate you, you should get it. Don't go and buy a new one though. Stick with something resalable. But then you dont seem to worry much about that, then i'd say go crazy!!

          phrogg111 pretty much mention the low down of the rounds. I'll stick to my positive about it. The ammo is very interesting and neat. It is like having rifle rounds in mini size. Very low recoil. Probably even less or same with the 9mm.

          I never own a 5.7 handgun, but they look interesting. Just felt a bit cheaply built for me. Mechanism wise, it is something different compared with others. If you like the 5.7 round, try the PS90. My favorite rifle so far.
          I'd rather be at the range!

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          • #6
            SCZ
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 531

            I've rented the 5.7 at a couple of the local rental ranges.

            It's a LOT of fun to shoot.

            Ergo for that pistol is perfect for my hands, it just feels soooo damn good. Most assuredly next pistol on my list to buy.
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            • #7
              ROCKETW19
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 705

              Originally posted by phrogg111
              You just heard of the Five Seven? Here's the real low down on the 5.7x28 round:

              -Same muzzle energy as +P 9mm, but only if you get the most expensive 5.7x28 rounds that are loaded at 395 ft-lbs of energy

              -Standard 5.7x28 FN civilian loads - those blue tip rounds - have within 5% of the muzzle energy of a .22 magnum out of a rifle length barrel. .22 magnum out of a pistol has considerably less muzzle energy, though.

              -Not armor piercing, unless you're an LEO and can get around the federal AP handgun ammo ban

              -Good round, nice low recoil, nice low weight in the gun, high capacity (not in this state)... I bought a Glock 17c because it's basically going to do the same thing (capacity and stopping power wise), but not be accurate out to 150 yards. Oh, it's also less than half the price.

              Whatever you decide on, have fun! If it's not fun, it's not worth doing. If it's fun, forget everyone else's opinion. Only your opinion and the facts matter!
              ya just heard about the 5.7 ( been into guns for 20+yrs)I have seen it mentioned in post but never payed attention to it. It will be a range toy like 99% of my guns. I have two to save my life (HK usp 9mm and Benelli M4)and the rest are just cool or intresting to me guns for fun. I try not to get into the serious side of it. I am no navy seal just a guy who likes cool stuff and loves guns. But your guys info is very important to me cuz most here are very smart on this stuff (unlike me)
              thanks for your help

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              • #8
                ROCKETW19
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 705

                Originally posted by nightwolf0215
                If the gun fascinate you, you should get it. Don't go and buy a new one though. Stick with something resalable. But then you dont seem to worry much about that, then i'd say go crazy!!

                phrogg111 pretty much mention the low down of the rounds. I'll stick to my positive about it. The ammo is very interesting and neat. It is like having rifle rounds in mini size. Very low recoil. Probably even less or same with the 9mm.

                I never own a 5.7 handgun, but they look interesting. Just felt a bit cheaply built for me. Mechanism wise, it is something different compared with others. If you like the 5.7 round, try the PS90. My favorite rifle so far.
                yes exactly it is intresting to me. I or I should say my family has many full auto but i like the M11A1 full auto it has slow fire upper and a really bad gun now. there is a new company that everyone wants 5.7 I think they are gonna do it so I read about it and then ran across the hand gun here so that really got me going. A M11A1 full auto 100 rounds with a hand gun to match,lol perfect

                side note they are making upper for the lil mini shotgun shells,lol imagine that in full auto 60 -70 rounds of buck shot lol to fun

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                • #9
                  ROCKETW19
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 705

                  Originally posted by SCZ
                  I've rented the 5.7 at a couple of the local rental ranges.

                  It's a LOT of fun to shoot.

                  Ergo for that pistol is perfect for my hands, it just feels soooo damn good. Most assuredly next pistol on my list to buy.
                  good idea I will see if I can rent somewhere first. prob just get it anyways though,lol

                  thank you eveyone for your advise and help

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                  • #10
                    Moonshine
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2053

                    Problem is the cost of ammo... Which is really too bad because I can only imagine how completely awesome it would be to run a pistol course with the Five Seven

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                    • #11
                      ExtremeX
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 7160

                      I’d love myself a five seven... but there are a lot of drawbacks... biggest one for me is magazine capacity limitations in CA.

                      Ammo restrictions don’t help either.

                      I still want one tho.
                      ExtremeX

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                      • #12
                        ROCKETW19
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 705

                        its 10 rounds no matter what gun you have. so why would the limit matter?
                        is gun comps are you still restricted to 10 round and bullet buttons ect or is there something different for comps?
                        ammo restrictions, like what armor piercing or something different?

                        when was the FN made I could of swore I bought at least 5 full cvap mags before the ban I would just have to go check my garage full of every mag every made know to man kind

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                        • #13
                          Shapes And Colors
                          Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 342

                          Originally posted by ROCKETW19
                          its 10 rounds no matter what gun you have. so why would the limit matter?
                          is gun comps are you still restricted to 10 round and bullet buttons ect or is there something different for comps?
                          ammo restrictions, like what armor piercing or something different?

                          when was the FN made I could of swore I bought at least 5 full cvap mags before the ban I would just have to go check my garage full of every mag every made know to man kind
                          Yes, yes, and 2004 to civilians.
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          And that boys and girls is what stepping on your own dick sounds like.

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                          • #14
                            ROCKETW19
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 705

                            Originally posted by Shapes And Colors
                            Yes, yes, and 2004 to civilians.
                            oh wow that has got to suck for guys that compete. They should have a special law/rule for comps.

                            thanks for anwsers

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                            • #15
                              ExtremeX
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 7160

                              Originally posted by ROCKETW19
                              its 10 rounds no matter what gun you have. so why would the limit matter?
                              is gun comps are you still restricted to 10 round and bullet buttons ect or is there something different for comps?
                              ammo restrictions, like what armor piercing or something different?

                              when was the FN made I could of swore I bought at least 5 full cvap mags before the ban I would just have to go check my garage full of every mag every made know to man kind
                              ExtremeX

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