1911s suck...part 2

[jcaoloveshine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYEd-3iy4QM&feature=g-u-u

Very interesting that he sat down and talked with Wilson Combat about it.

I agree with him on that front...1911s need special attention during manufacturing and diligence in ownership. Good video.

Also...definitely some nice eye candy in there

[MiddleKingdom]

Yes, it was interesting. Some don't care for Yeager, but if the info is useful I'll pay attention.

[skyscraper]

Chuck Liddel is still grasping for fame eh?

[jcaoloveshine]

Normally I'm not a big fan of his macho man personality, but at least here WC does most of the talking. Some good points and always cool to get an inside look at a good shop.

[NorCal Einstein]

This was more of a 18 minute video promoting Wilson than anything else. If you're going to do that, at least show me more than (2) 1911s and maybe a peak into the gunsmiths area.

[SilverTauron]

Sales Director of Wilson Combat meets James Yeager to discuss flaws on the 1911.Hmn.

What does Wilson Combat sell , for the most part? They make great 1911s, but ill bet their most common sales are accessories and parts.Ill also bet they make more money in profit margins from selling safeties, parts, and slide locks than they do selling complete guns.

Those points established, wonders of all wonders that a 1911 parts maker and a tactical training instructor who builds notoriety pointing out 1911 problems meet for their mutual gain.

As far as I'm concerned the entire debate is an example in irrelevant ,mall ninja intellectual masturbation. 90% of gun owners wont run 5000 rounds through their gun in 5 years. Most citizens who buy guns for defense use them at the state-mandated training range, and then promptly stick them in their nightstands or holsters never to be shot again in the same month. The people who care enough about their guns to research things like we do are in the very slim minority of gun owners in America. For most of the millions of people who own weapons in America, they run 50 rounds through their Glocks, XD's, Berettas, and 1911s by shooting at dad's old fridge at 7 yards every six months and call it good.


Most of us aren't D-boys or members of USN's DevGru. The typical scumbag uses a firearm for intimidation, not for intentional attack. Even in the latter situation most hoods don't know squat about shooting, and the ones that do know better than to precipitate a gunfight in someone's house at 2AM. As soon as the bad guy knows his target has any weapon, they're making tracks for the nearest way out.

Instead of focusing on "tactical" and "high-speed-high-reliability-drop-in-scalding-hot-lava-and-still-works-reliability" when the typical CCW'er will live their entire lifetime without ever drawing their gun or jumping out of an airplane in some desert war zone , perhaps the debate should change to the fundamentals of marksmanship.

Ah,right,almost forgot. You can't make filthy money empowering people how to properly shoot a gun,without trying to sell a reason to buy excess crap that only distracts your clientele from the central point of hitting the doggone target.

[1911Luvr]

Most citizens who buy guns for defense use them at the state-mandated training range, and then promptly stick them in their nightstands or holsters never to be shot again in the same month.

This is so true for the average self defense firearm owner. I doubt my father has more than 75 rounds through is S&W 586 purchased back in the 80's.

[gorenut]

This was more of a 18 minute video promoting Wilson than anything else. If you're going to do that, at least show me more than (2) 1911s and maybe a peak into the gunsmiths area.

Pretty much my thought. Disappointed at first that he wasn't pissing off more 1911 fanboys (I like 1911s a lot, but I just find it amusing when fanboys overreact to differing views), then dually disappointed that once I figured out this is almost more of a company promo that they didn't show more around the shop and guns.

[InGrAM]

If Bill doesn't have time for this assclown... Video needed more 1911's and some shots of the smiths. Can I please have the time back that I spent watching this?

I hate videos that billboard the idea that only hand fitted, $2500+ 1911's will work reliably. It just puts poor information into idiots minds on the interweb. Then those idiots post the same idiotic things about 1911's all over forums.

[SilverTauron]

If Bill doesn't have time for this assclown... Video needed more 1911's and some shots of the smiths. Can I please have the time back that I spent watching this?

I hate videos that billboard the idea that only hand fitted, $2500+ 1911's will work reliably. It just puts poor information into idiots minds on the interweb. Then those idiots post the same idiotic things about 1911's all over forums.

Indeed.

Whats ironic about my own experience with 1911s, is that the only one ive seen consistently fail in person was a Nighthawk Custom model.

RIA 1911 Tactical-no failures with good grade mags.
Taurus PT1911-no failures with good grade mags.
Remington 1911 R1-no failures with good grade mags.

Nighthawk Custom that I rented, the very first 1911 I ever shot-consistent failure to return to battery after a fresh magazine. I was forced to slingshot the slide in order to chamber a round. Its a rental gun which looked like the last time it got cleaned was before Obama's term, but there you have it.

I realize this is just a sample of one, but it puts the conventional wisdom on its head regarding 1911s needing expensive work to be reliable. There's two videos on youtube which puts that old myth to rest.

[Bug Splat]

Why is he using his support hand to pull the trigger?

[zfields]

This was more of a 18 minute video promoting Wilson than anything else. If you're going to do that, at least show me more than (2) 1911s and maybe a peak into the gunsmiths area.

Only watched about the first 10 minutes, but it didn't seem that much of a promo video to me.

[InGrAM]

Why is he using his support hand to pull the trigger?

"Only in ta pillapeens!"

[bubbapug1]

Sales Director of Wilson Combat meets James Yeager to discuss flaws on the 1911.Hmn.

What does Wilson Combat sell , for the most part? They make great 1911s, but ill bet their most common sales are accessories and parts.Ill also bet they make more money in profit margins from selling safeties, parts, and slide locks than they do selling complete guns.

Those points established, wonders of all wonders that a 1911 parts maker and a tactical training instructor who builds notoriety pointing out 1911 problems meet for their mutual gain.

As far as I'm concerned the entire debate is an example in irrelevant ,mall ninja intellectual masturbation. 90% of gun owners wont run 5000 rounds through their gun in 5 years. Most citizens who buy guns for defense use them at the state-mandated training range, and then promptly stick them in their nightstands or holsters never to be shot again in the same month. The people who care enough about their guns to research things like we do are in the very slim minority of gun owners in America. For most of the millions of people who own weapons in America, they run 50 rounds through their Glocks, XD's, Berettas, and 1911s by shooting at dad's old fridge at 7 yards every six months and call it good.


Most of us aren't D-boys or members of USN's DevGru. The typical scumbag uses a firearm for intimidation, not for intentional attack. Even in the latter situation most hoods don't know squat about shooting, and the ones that do know better than to precipitate a gunfight in someone's house at 2AM. As soon as the bad guy knows his target has any weapon, they're making tracks for the nearest way out.

Instead of focusing on "tactical" and "high-speed-high-reliability-drop-in-scalding-hot-lava-and-still-works-reliability" when the typical CCW'er will live their entire lifetime without ever drawing their gun or jumping out of an airplane in some desert war zone , perhaps the debate should change to the fundamentals of marksmanship.

Ah,right,almost forgot. You can't make filthy money empowering people how to properly shoot a gun,without trying to sell a reason to buy excess crap that only distracts your clientele from the central point of hitting the doggone target.

excellent post

[INFAMOUS762X39]

Why is he using his support hand to pull the trigger?

Seriously, he might as well be practicing bump fire.

Edit: Forgot to mention I immediately closed the OP's Video when I saw Jame's snatch beard and Wilson Wombat's fat belly.