CZ-75B Range report; problems!

[.45 ftw!]

I just shot 200 rounds of these very reloads through my xd9 with no problems....

[zfields]

I just shot 200 rounds of these very reloads through my xd9 with no problems....

XD's are much looser chambered it seems. Not a bad thing by any means : )

[freethemouse]

I'm going to shoot some bullet_man 9mm reloads through my SP-01 this week. Probably Tuesday. I can report back my results.

I have never had problems with Bullet_mans ammo in my 75bd, or my Ruger SR9 or my P226. His 45's have been great in my SIg 1911 as well.

I see.

Well, ideally, the second cleaning will have resolved the issue. I'm going to try other ammo regardless, and also pick up a heavier spring because it seems to me that that could help (it's like it's BARELY failing to go into battery; I bet I can shake the gun real hard and make it go into battery). The only issue with the heavier spring is that it would put more strain on the slide stop, which I've heard breaks from time to time. Are there any other issues I could potentially run into with a heavier spring?

I just remembered that when I first fondled my CZ-75B, the slide felt much lighter than the rental I was using at the range (the slide was VERY hard to rack on the rental gun, I've had no problem racking mine). This also leads me to think it's the spring.

Oh, and to answer an earlier question, the bullets sit fine in the chamber. Both the reloads and the CCI Blazer Brass drop in easily.

I just shot 200 rounds of these very reloads through my xd9 with no problems....

Yup, my brother shot 200 through his XD9 without a single hiccup. Sad part is, I can shoot his gun much better than I can this CZ-75 (granted, I put more rounds through the XD).

[40SWGlock]

The reloads are also mixed brass; I'm going to collect the ones that fail to feed to see if there's a common brand that's causing the problems.

Either way, if it is the ammo (from bullet_man911 here on Calguns), it's a total bummer since it is the cheapest I can find. I'd like to shoot a lot and the ammo savings would be substantial (it's pretty substantial even considering the amount I shot today). I suppose I can keep shooting these and just give the slide a tap every now and then.

FWIW, there was about a dozen or so failures to go into battery out of the 200 rounds I shot today.

EDIT: Does anybody have any experience with CZ's and hollowpoints/home defense rounds? Which ones were good and which ones should I stay away from?

I shot 400 reloads today from Bulletman that were flawless.
200 thru XD9 Subcompact
200 thru RIA 1911 Tactical
Cant beat the price on the ammo for target and practice.

[zfields]

Try some of the walmart winchester junk. If its an issue of underpowered ammo, you will have problems.

I wouldnt go with an "extra power" spring, just replace the current one with a good, US made one (wolf). IIRC, even CZcustom bashes the stock springs for being junk euro trash.

[freethemouse]

Try some of the walmart winchester junk. If its an issue of underpowered ammo, you will have problems.

I wouldnt go with an "extra power" spring, just replace the current one with a good, US made one (wolf). IIRC, even CZcustom bashes the stock springs for being junk euro trash.

Yeah, I was going to pick up a 15 or 16lbs Wolff spring. Think I should just go with the 14lbs one? (CZ's specs)

[glockwise2000]

It might be just that your CZ is brand spanking new. It would new at least a 1000 rounds to break-in a new HG. Try new factory loads for the first thousand round and then switch to bulletman's reloads.

My CZ has well over 3000 rds and yet to fail. I haven't used reloads yet though.

[pc_load_letter]

Also....I've always had to lube my CZ's somewhat more liberally than other handguns.

My CZ's have always liked a nice thick coat of grease (I use SlideGlide) when shooting. Might be anecdotal but it's my experience.

My CZ's never ran well with FrogLube. Seemed to burn off quickly.

[freethemouse]

It might be just that your CZ is brand spanking new. It would new at least a 1000 rounds to break-in a new HG. Try new factory loads for the first thousand round and then switch to bulletman's reloads.

My CZ has well over 3000 rds and yet to fail. I haven't used reloads yet though.

Ahh yes. The fabled "this gun sucks" period. I was hoping to avoid this myself but I suppose it could be a break-in issue (FWIW, the first 120 rounds I shot were fine. The next 200 [using different reloads] were not).

Also....I've always had to lube my CZ's somewhat more liberally than other handguns.

My CZ's have always liked a nice thick coat of grease (I use SlideGlide) when shooting. Might be anecdotal but it's my experience.

My CZ's never ran well with FrogLube. Seemed to burn off quickly.

Okay, I think like I'm about to feel pretty stupid here. Should I be using GREASE? I've just been applying CLP, and none of that paste-like stuff.

[zfields]

Yeah, I was going to pick up a 15 or 16lbs Wolff spring. Think I should just go with the 14lbs one? (CZ's specs)

If anything, stick stock. Id test the ammo first.

Also....I've always had to lube my CZ's somewhat more liberally than other handguns.

My CZ's have always liked a nice thick coat of grease (I use SlideGlide) when shooting. Might be anecdotal but it's my experience.

My CZ's never ran well with FrogLube. Seemed to burn off quickly.

+1. I use hoppes gun grease and slip 2000, seems to work just fine.
Grease only on the slide rails, drop of oil in the inner workings of the sear cage, and call it a day.

[Euphoria526]

It might be just that your CZ is brand spanking new. It would new at least a 1000 rounds to break-in a new HG. Try new factory loads for the first thousand round and then switch to bulletman's reloads.

My CZ has well over 3000 rds and yet to fail. I haven't used reloads yet though.

This. Its also my understanding you shouldn't shoot reloads to break in a barrel property because of ye inconsistencies in them. I have never shot reloads through my p01 and I'm thankful. Hell I bought my 40 use and still refuse to put randome rounds through it

[zfields]

This. Its also my understanding you shouldn't shoot reloads to break in a barrel property because of ye inconsistencies in them. I have never shot reloads through my p01 and I'm thankful. Hell I bought my 40 use and still refuse to put randome rounds through it

No offence, but I don't buy that one bit. If anything, a properly reloaded round can be just as, or more, consistent then factory ammo. Quality completely depends on who is loading it.

I also don't buy into the barrel break in junk when it comes to combat style pistols.

[Euphoria526]

Zfields- I completely agree with you. But I also understand when you buy reloads in bulk like that from someplace you don't know and you don't oversee or understand process, it's more of a gamble for sizes and consistsencies if you don't know what is going into it. Granted this can also apply to factory as well I will not deny that at all I just use what I've found to work for me. My guns love pmc. Lol

You know far more than I do fields, I'm not afraid to admit that, that's just my understanding as is for reloads. If you don't do it yourself you don't know exactly what you get.

[zfields]

Zfields- I completely agree with you. But I also understand when you buy reloads in bulk like that from someplace you don't know and you don't oversee or understand process, it's more of a gamble for sizes and consistsencies if you don't know what is going into it. Granted this can also apply to factory as well I will not deny that at all I just use what I've found to work for me. My guns love pmc. Lol

You know far more than I do fields, I'm not afraid to admit that, that's just my understanding as is for reloads. If you don't do it yourself you don't know exactly what you get.

I apologize, I didn't mean to come off condescending at all if it sounded like it. I just don't understand the barrel break in on pistol barrels. With a bench rifle? Sure, you are doing the final lapping on it. Pistols? Lapping 4 1/2 inches of steel with low velocity copper doesn't seem like it would do much to me. As for breaking in the slide to frame, sear and hammer hook faces etc, that makes much more sense. And with how random reloads usually come with variations to seating depth, charge weights, and at times bad crimps/resizing, I still don't see how it would effect break in that much.


For factory, RWS sportline 124 grain is amazing stuff if you can find it.

[pc_load_letter]

Okay, I think like I'm about to feel pretty stupid here. Should I be using GREASE? I've just been applying CLP, and none of that paste-like stuff.

Probably not enough viscosity by itself. While I occasionally use CLP for cleaning, I do not rely on it for my lubrication duties solely.

When it's metal on metal...grease!

See zfields reply as well. For me, I use slideguide on my rails on the frame and slide.

For my internal workings...I use Gunzilla CLP which is like CLP but all natural and non toxic.

After you apply, work the slide for a few minutes and get some snap caps to ensure extraction is fine.