MC Operator vs TRP

[FatCity67]

I have a SS TRP non rail and my buddy has an MC OP.

At the range they both perform the same as far as accuracy.

The only differences I have found are cosmetic and the fact that he paid less for his gun and got a rail

Yes, yes I am aware of all the "upgrades" in the TRP but I haven't seen a difference in the actual peformance of the two side by side.

[redcliff]

I have a SS TRP non rail and my buddy has an MC OP.

At the range they both perform the same as far as accuracy.

The only differences I have found are cosmetic and the fact that he paid less for his gun and got a rail

Yes, yes I am aware of all the "upgrades" in the TRP but I haven't seen a difference in the actual performance of the two side by side.

Naturally, as someone that doesn't know you or your friend, or your current shooting abilities, or the abilities of others that have responded in this thread with similar answers, the first question that comes to mind on these type of comparisons is "how well do you both shoot and what distance do you shoot at?" Unless you both are very accurate shooters its hard to distinguish degrees of accuracy from two accurate pistols, especially at close ranges, and I don't think anyone is saying a Springfield Loaded or MC Operator is an inaccurate pistol. The only way to quantify the differences is through measured results.

I mean no disrespect and you can treat it as a rhetorical question; for all I know Brian Enos kisses the ground you walk on. But I've handed some of my accurized 1911's to people that proceed to fire 5" or larger groups at 10 yards when the pistol is capable of 1" or less groups at 25 yards from a rest. I personally am fairly happy with 1" 8 shot groups offhand at 10 yards with my custom Combat Commander given it's shorter sight radius and the fact I"m well past my prime although I always strive to improve or probably more realistically to slow my rate of decay

[kouye]

If all goes the way most thread like this go, some SA Pro owner should enter soon to say both the TRP and MC Operator suck. Just sayin'....

[t0kie]

If all goes the way most thread like this go, some SA Pro owner should enter soon to say both the TRP and MC Operator suck. Just sayin'....

I don't think so (I have a SA Pro, I believe redcliff also has one & others here have it too, but we didn't say things like you siad^^^).
The OP was asking opinion between the TRP & MC Operator & we gave ours.
To me, all Springfield 1911s are great guns & all my pistols will out shoot me as a shooter for sure. It's not about who has the most expensive gun is better than the others,
I just tried to point out the dif. between the two guns in terms of specs & how they were built.

[DT556]

Yeah, I know that the TRP has like a $400 higher price tag so I was just wondering the differences were.

[1911whore]

Nobody myself included has ever said the m c operator is a bad gun. I am basing my opinions on the experiences I have had only and handeling both particular models numerous times. Springfield are grey gardens but as we all know the quality of the it's very greatly from pistol to pistol. I have noticed that the party line of pistols to be more well it across the board. I had an MC operator that rattles like an old colt... my friend had 1 that was very tightly built. The same can be said about all of the rest of their production pistols. If you have an opportunity where you have a gun dealer who has multiple of each model in stock you would do quite well to individually inspect each pistol and hand pick the 1 that is best built. Having owns a t r p as well and handled numerous others it is my opinion that across the board the trp's are better fit and finished. Springfield has in the last 2 or 3 years be gone to put a more durable finish and a match grade barrel and fit the triggers better etc on the m c operator then they may be pretty close in quality. Both are good guys both will probably shoot far better than the people owning them however the same could generally be said for a mil spec.

[FatCity67]

Naturally, as someone that doesn't know you or your friend, or your current shooting abilities, or the abilities of others that have responded in this thread with similar answers, the first question that comes to mind on these type of comparisons is "how well do you both shoot and what distance do you shoot at?" Unless you both are very accurate shooters its hard to distinguish degrees of accuracy from two accurate pistols, especially at close ranges, and I don't think anyone is saying a Springfield Loaded or MC Operator is an inaccurate pistol. The only way to quantify the differences is through measured results.

I mean no disrespect and you can treat it as a rhetorical question; for all I know Brian Enos kisses the ground you walk on. But I've handed some of my accurized 1911's to people that proceed to fire 5" or larger groups at 10 yards when the pistol is capable of 1" or less groups at 25 yards from a rest. I personally am fairly happy with 1" 8 shot groups offhand at 10 yards with my custom Combat Commander given it's shorter sight radius and the fact I"m well past my prime although I always strive to improve or probably more realistically to slow my rate of decay

None taken, my ego is fairly secure given the many decades of firearm experience under my belt.

Again IMO the difference between the two are minute enough that ONLY a professional marksman/shooter might be able to tell the difference.

Is my TRP tighter? yes, Are the tolerances smaller? yes, is the overall finish slightly higher? yes. For an experienced shooter those things really mean nothing down the line.

[Loubot10]

Naturally, as someone that doesn't know you or your friend, or your current shooting abilities, or the abilities of others that have responded in this thread with similar answers, the first question that comes to mind on these type of comparisons is "how well do you both shoot and what distance do you shoot at?" Unless you both are very accurate shooters its hard to distinguish degrees of accuracy from two accurate pistols, especially at close ranges, and I don't think anyone is saying a Springfield Loaded or MC Operator is an inaccurate pistol. The only way to quantify the differences is through measured results.

I mean no disrespect and you can treat it as a rhetorical question; for all I know Brian Enos kisses the ground you walk on. But I've handed some of my accurized 1911's to people that proceed to fire 5" or larger groups at 10 yards when the pistol is capable of 1" or less groups at 25 yards from a rest. I personally am fairly happy with 1" 8 shot groups offhand at 10 yards with my custom Combat Commander given it's shorter sight radius and the fact I"m well past my prime although I always strive to improve or probably more realistically to slow my rate of decay

MC Operator 1.5" 8 shot group at 25 yrd. Offhand. And last I checked most if not every " loaded" has a match grade barrel.

[voiceoftheright]

I have been watching this thread since you started it just to see how others feel...I have both and use the MC as my home defense gun. I shoot the full rail better (more accurately), but think the difference isn't much as to average shooters would notice. As far as the MC being nothing more than a loaded with a rail...completely false. At least with my MC compared to the Loaded I had. The Loaded was a nice gun, but the fit of my MC is great. Is the TRP better fit wise? Yes. But I got a steal on it at 1400 used compared to my MC which was $966 new from Bud's, so it better be that much better! Either way, I'm sure either weapon will be satisfactory and if you have a chance to handle/shoot them, you will be hooked with either of the two (but probably want both).

[DT556]

I have been watching this thread since you started it just to see how others feel...I have both and use the MC as my home defense gun. I shoot the full rail better (more accurately), but think the difference isn't much as to average shooters would notice. As far as the MC being nothing more than a loaded with a rail...completely false. At least with my MC compared to the Loaded I had. The Loaded was a nice gun, but the fit of my MC is great. Is the TRP better fit wise? Yes. But I got a steal on it at 1400 used compared to my MC which was $966 new from Bud's, so it better be that much better! Either way, I'm sure either weapon will be satisfactory and if you have a chance to handle/shoot them, you will be hooked with either of the two (but probably want both).

Thanks, you got great prices on those two.

[JeremyS]

If all goes the way most thread like this go, some SA Pro owner should enter soon to say both the TRP and MC Operator suck. Just sayin'....

Oh blah blah. I have a Pro and an MC Operator (also a Lightweight Champion Operator, for what it's worth) and they're both great. Yeah, the Pro is tighter and the trigger is better but what do you expect? For sale, btw...

You can see a difference in slide/frame fit, barrel bushing fit, etc, but you have to look close. This MC Operator is absolutely a very tight, well-fitted gun!

[racky]

champion operator party?