MC Operator vs TRP

[1911Luvr]

? Loadeds are completely made in Brazil, while the MC operators have slides and frames imported, with the fitting and assembly work done in the US.

-- Michael

I do not mean to call you out on this Michael, but before spreading misinformation please do a little searching. Springfield does their forging in Brazil, that much is correct, but not all Loadeds are completely made in Brazil. Springfield does more than 50% work on some guns in Brazil while others have more than 50% completed here. SA identifies the guns with the bulk of the work done here with the serial number prefix NM. I have both "N" marked Loadeds finished in Brazil (Imbel) and "NM" marked Loaded and MC Operator finished here.

[elSquid]

I do not mean to call you out on this Michael,

Don't worry about it. Bad information should be corrected.

-- Michael

[socal147]

Much better? Damn, I guess I will have to get rid of the MC OP I love to shoot and shoot well with. The fit is very tight and the accuracy is beyond my capabilities. I have had a TRP Full Rail. Just too heavy. I will be getting a SS TRP No Rail as funding permits.

But I got to tell you, My MC OP is a sweet shooter.........all of the internet pros aside.

[Loubot10]

This^^^. TRP is a better gun & IIRC the barrel is also better on TRP (NM) than the MC Operator.

Everybody's got an answer but they seem to be incorrect.


My MC has an NM

[Loubot10]

Much better? Damn, I guess I will have to get rid of the MC OP I love to shoot and shoot well with. The fit is very tight and the accuracy is beyond my capabilities. I have had a TRP Full Rail. Just too heavy. I will be getting a SS TRP No Rail as funding permits.

But I got to tell you, My MC OP is a sweet shooter.........all of the internet pros aside.

This

[redcliff]

This^^^. TRP is a better gun & IIRC the barrel is also better on TRP (NM) than the MC Operator.

Everybody's got an answer but they seem to be incorrect.


My MC has an NM

I believe he was referencing NM as in a "National Match" barrel not an NM serial number indicating a US completed Loaded/Mc Operator.

[t0kie]

Everybody's got an answer but they seem to be incorrect.


My MC has an NM

You misunderstood me, I'm talking about the barrel, not the frame. The earlier version of MC Operator used to have regular barrel, not the NM/Match Grade barrel that is ALWAYS the standard barrel that comes in TRP. (However, later version of MC Operator that I saw in my LGS do have the Match Grade barrel).

[t0kie]

SA like to do confusing things, like NM in the serial number that *doesn't * stand for National Match.

Correct.

[Synergy]

To add more confusion I have Champion in the 75,000 range with WW and my TRP in the 186,000 range is NM.

A good explanation.

http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=49574

[DT556]

You misunderstood me, I'm talking about the barrel, not the frame. The earlier version of MC Operator used to have regular barrel, not the NM/Match Grade barrel that is ALWAYS the standard barrel that comes in TRP. (However, later version of MC Operator that I saw in my LGS do have the Match Grade barrel).

So when did they start using match grade barrels in the MC Operator?

[t0kie]

I don't now when exactly, but few years ago I saw one from buddy of mine wearing regular barrel (when I say regular barrel means it is not a match grade barrel), but lately most of them that I've seen come with match grade barrel.

[DT556]

I don't now when exactly, but few years ago I saw one from buddy of mine wearing regular barrel (when I say regular barrel means it is not a match grade barrel), but lately most of them that I've seen come with match grade barrel.

Would it just say "match" on the barrel? I didn't look at it when I did the PPT. I guess I have to wait the 7 more days.

[t0kie]

No, it does not say match barrel on the hood, but you can tell by looking at the crown/tip of the barrel.
Try to compare between TRP barrel and SA Milspec or GI barrel then you'll see what I mean.

[DT556]

No, it does not say match barrel on the hood, but you can tell by looking at the crown/tip of the barrel.
Try to compare it with the TRP barrel with SA Milspec or GI barrel then you'll see what I mean.

Thanks, I'll compare it to my TRP.

[FLAWLS1]

The TRP has more hand-fitting. Heres a good article on them: http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...eld-trp-45acp/

Great link! I have the TRP so that definitely means it's better than the MC Operator