New Glock 19 Gen 4 question

[Ponderosa2]

I'm out at the range right now. First time out with my new G19 Gen 4. I put 50 rounds of the cheap walmart federal through it, no problem. 50 rounds of the Winchester white box, no problem. Then I took 10 Hornady critical defense out of my carry gun that I had on me and got two jams. Any thoughts? Just sitting here taking a brake at the range. I don't have anymore of the Hornady on me or I'd try again. I use it in my HK p2000sk for daily carry and never had a jam. I can't imagine a Glock having a problem with HP's.

[SIGman Freud]

Hmmm......wonder when your gun was born. You may or may not have heard about the Gen 4 G19s having issues with different loads. Could be the spring just needs more higher power ball ammo to help break it in. I'd also see if someone else can try your gun out just to eliminate any potential self operator error.

[SIGman Freud]

You can search the forums here and elsewhere about the early Gen 4 arrivals in 9 mm having to be sent back to Glock. IIRC it had something to do with the recoil spring. I'm sure more knowledgeable gen 4 owners will chime in.

Good luck

[Ponderosa2]

Hmmm......wonder when your gun was born. You may or may not have heard about the Gen 4 G19s having issues with different loads. Could be the spring just needs more higher power ball ammo to help break it in. I'd also see if someone else can try your gun out just to eliminate any potential self operator error.

Could be any of those things I guess. It's new new, was just received at the gun store the day I bought it. I'd like to think it wasnt operator error, never had that problem before, and I've put a lots of rounds down range over the years, but again, it could be.

[Ponderosa2]

You can search the forums here and elsewhere about the early Gen 4 arrivals in 9 mm having to be sent back to Glock. IIRC it had something to do with the recoil spring. I'm sure more knowledgeable gen 4 owners will chime in.

Good luck

Thanks. I was hoping I'd be spared those issues. I'll have to check the manufacture date when I get home.

[MXRider]

When you say jam, I'm assuming you are talking about failure to feed and or go completely into battery correct? Also, I'm assuming you are using factory Glock mags correct?

Was this happening on the first round being chambered, last round or randomly?

[Ponderosa2]

When you say jam, I'm assuming you are talking about failure to feed and or go completely into battery correct? Also, I'm assuming you are using factory Glock mags correct?

Was this happening on the first round being chambered, last round or randomly?

Sorry, should have been more specific. Both were failure to feeds on the feed ramp. Tapped and racked and they fed and fired. And yes, factory mags that came with it.

[Ponderosa2]

When you say jam, I'm assuming you are talking about failure to feed and or go completely into battery correct? Also, I'm assuming you are using factory Glock mags correct?

Was this happening on the first round being chambered, last round or randomly?

I only had 10 of the critical defense so I loaded 5 and got the failure on the 3rd round I think, then loaded the other 5 and got the failure to feed on the second round. Not enough to get a pattern, I know. I added the g19 to my LTC and plan on carrying it. So I just took what I had out of my HK to see how they would function. Didn't exactly get the result I wanted.

[SIGman Freud]

If you're used to the HK, then it could be a very subtle operator issue. I know for me, it always goes back to a training issue with Glocks---because they are a different system than what I shoot at the range off duty (Beretta, HK, Sig, CZ). Hopefully, it's just matter of you getting used to the Glock platform (i.e. trigger, grip, double-action recoil operating action).

If not, Glock will take care of it for you.

[Ponderosa2]

If you're used to the HK, then it could be a very subtle operator issue. I know for me, it always goes back to a training issue with Glocks---because they are a different system than what I shoot at the range off duty (Beretta, HK, Sig, CZ). Hopefully, it's just matter of you getting used to the Glock platform (i.e. trigger, grip, double-action recoil operating action).

If not, Glock will take care of it for you.

Could be, could be. Ended up putting 50 walmart federal and 200 Winchester white box. No problems at all with either of those. Just the Hornady. Looks like I need more range time with a couple defense loads. The jury is out!

[MXRider]

Looks like I need more range time with a couple defense loads. The jury is out!

That is what I would do. Get about 500 rounds or more of practice ammo and try out some defense ammo. I have had great luck with Speer gold dot 124 gr jhp +p in all of my Glocks.

[1911Operator]

if its a feeding issue it probably is the mag. try different mags, if it keeps happening then its the ammo probably.

[scglock]

Could be the magazine wasnt seated all the way since you said the tap rack worked both times. Buy some more critical defense and load it all the way

[Ponderosa2]

Could be the magazine wasnt seated all the way since you said the tap rack worked both times. Buy some more critical defense and load it all the way

I definitely want to give the Hornady another try. I've had good luck with it up to this point. 10 rounds is not enough to figure anything out. But 250 rounds with the other stuff was fine so I just wonder...

[ZOOMST15]

I definitely want to give the Hornady another try. I've had good luck with it up to this point. 10 rounds is not enough to figure anything out. But 250 rounds with the other stuff was fine so I just wonder...

Did you ever figure out the cause of the problem? I'm in the market for a Gen 4 Glock 19 also but I'm still a bit skeptical about the reliability. It seems that even some of the new Gen 4s after the recalls are still having problems.

Was having issues like this here and there normal for the Gen 3 also and people are just more sensitive to it because its still a rather new gen?