RIA 1911 recoil plug

[railroader]

Was actually looking for this one. Just wanted to know if the RIA was a different diameter, etc.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4...-PLUG-FOR-1911

This should fit. I had one like it in a ria tactical I had and it fit my kimber also.

[akjunkie]

Yes it would. The normal guide rests in the frame and has two "legs that contact the barrel.

I can find no evidence that it should have that groove -- any chance that's just worn into the guide?

Here's couple pics of the groove i was talking about. see attachment.
I stuck the guide rod into a 308 case to help prop it up.

[littlejake]

Here's couple pics of the groove i was talking about. see attachment.
I stuck the guide rod into a 308 case to help prop it up.

I have to say that's different. 1911 guide rods do not normally contact the barrel link. They sit in the frame. I've got lots of photos, but none that show how it sits in the frame.

Maybe that's unique to one piece Full Length Guide Rods (FLGR) -- My SA had a two piece which made dis-assembly a pain; and could come loose where the two parts screwed together.

I think that SS FLGR plug a couple of posts up would fit your RIA.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=45082/Product/RECOIL-SPRING-PLUG-FOR-1911

I guess you have to go with that solution.

If I feel like stripping my 1911 and taking some photos, I show you have the GI guide fits in the frame.

I'm at a loss to explain why the GI plug and Guide rod will not work in your RIA -- perhaps the frame is milled differently where the guide would set in.

[railroader]

I have to say that's different. 1911 guide rods do not normally contact the barrel link. They sit in the frame. I've got lots of photos, but none that show how it sits in the frame.

Maybe that's unique to one piece Full Length Guide Rods (FLGR) -- My SA had a two piece which made dis-assembly a pain; and could come loose where the two parts screwed together.

I think that SS FLGR plug a couple of posts up would fit your RIA.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=45082/Product/RECOIL-SPRING-PLUG-FOR-1911

I guess you have to go with that solution.

If I feel like stripping my 1911 and taking some photos, I show you have the GI guide fits in the frame.

I'm at a loss to explain why the GI plug and Guide rod will not work in your RIA -- perhaps the frame is milled differently where the guide would set in.

A GI plug and guide rod will work. I had that set up in my ria tactical for awhile too.

[akjunkie]

A GI plug and guide rod will work. I had that set up in my ria tactical for awhile too.

OK, i'll give the GI plug and guide rod another try.

[-hanko]

Here's couple pics of the groove i was talking about. see attachment.
I stuck the guide rod into a 308 case to help prop it up.

Not even close to mil-spec.

First pic looks similar to an old school accessory called a Dyer Group Gripper...spring in the guide rod pushes upward on a bushing link machined with a notch to receive the spring...Brownells still sells them... Dyer Group Gripper

Theory is to exert pressure upward on the rear of the barrel to fix any looseness between the barrel locking lugs on the frame. Better fix is a new barrel and link hand-fitted to the gun.

hth

-hanko

[littlejake]

I found a similar short guide rod at Brownells from Wilson Combat. For the Commander.



But, I agree, a new link and a standard GI guide rod and plug are the way to go.

[akjunkie]

A GI plug and guide rod will work. I had that set up in my ria tactical for awhile too.

NO luck. Slide will go back 1/4 inch and that's it.

[walmart_ar15]

NO luck. Slide will go back 1/4 inch and that's it.

May want to disassemble and reassemble again. Functionally there is no difference between FLGR and standard GI. And your stock FLGR does not sit against the link when slide is assembled. FLGR is just cut with a grove to allow the link to sit in it when you pull the entire slide assemble off. (one plus for the FLGR) Once assembled, the FLGR will rest against the frame.

If your slide will move only 1/4", then something is installed wrong.

[Fishslayer]

OK. I am no 1911 guru. The ones I had in the .mil had the GI rod & plug. Worked fine. My RIA has a one piece FLGR. Works fine.

WTF is the idea behind THIS? Enlighten me.

[akjunkie]

OK. I am no 1911 guru. The ones I had in the .mil had the GI rod & plug. Worked fine. My RIA has a one piece FLGR. Works fine.

WTF is the idea behind THIS? Enlighten me.

That's a 2 piece guide rod. Need an allen wrench to disassemble gun.

[akjunkie]

May want to disassemble and reassemble again. Functionally there is no difference between FLGR and standard GI. And your stock FLGR does not sit against the link when slide is assembled. FLGR is just cut with a grove to allow the link to sit in it when you pull the entire slide assemble off. (one plus for the FLGR) Once assembled, the FLGR will rest against the frame.

If your slide will move only 1/4", then something is installed wrong.

Gonna break out teh micrometer and start taking measurements off my RIA and Kimber. Also gonna try installing the plug/guide rod/recoil spring from my Kimber and see if that makes any difference.

[akjunkie]

"I'm at a loss to explain why the GI plug and Guide rod will not work in your RIA -- perhaps the frame is milled differently where the guide would set in."

OK, problem fixed.

Installed plug, guide rod, and recoil spring from my Kimber onto the RIA.
Couldnt move the slide at all. Fwd or Backwards.
Removed plug, yanked out recoil spring. Shined a flashlite down the receiver.
Saw the problem immediately. Recoil guide was rubbing on the receiver.
Used rubber mallet to tap the slide backwards to remove Slide Release. Tapped Fwd to remove slide. Broke out dremel and did some very slow "sanding" on the sides of the guide rod til I had enuff free play.

Reinstalled gun back together and now she cycles fine:-)

edit: this was your "standard" guide rod without the Groove on the back.

also, Thanks again to everyone for their input!!