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  • akjunkie
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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    • Jan 2005
    • 3484

    RIA 1911 recoil plug

    long story short, the recoil plug slipped off my thumb during diassembly and flew off somewhere in my garage. cant find it so far. was wondering if the RIA 1pc guide rod is mil spec diameter before I order a replacement plug online.


    tia.
  • #2
    littlejake
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 2168

    I'm pretty sure it is. I swapped the 2 piece full length guide rod in my SA 1911 loaded model to a GI type guide and plug. I used Brownells part #100-003-258WB from Nighthawk Custom -- NHC part number BR0313. It has a small tab indented to screw onto the recoil spring to help capture it (no guarantee) -- every 1911 owner needs a couple of these in his spare parts bin and range bag.

    Don't feel bad about losing one -- heck, I broke a window when one got away about 40 years ago!
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    • #3
      akjunkie
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      • Jan 2005
      • 3484

      Was actually looking for this one. Just wanted to know if the RIA was a different diameter, etc.

      Brownells has been serving hunters, shooters, and first responders since 1939 and is one of the most trusted suppliers and manufacturers in the World.

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      • #4
        1911Luvr
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 1824

        You can just use an empty .45 case until you find the plug.
        I voted against Obama before it was cool.

        Originally posted by 1911Luvr
        I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!

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        • #5
          littlejake
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 2168

          Originally posted by akjunkie
          Was actually looking for this one. Just wanted to know if the RIA was a different diameter, etc.

          http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4...-PLUG-FOR-1911
          You have a full length guide rod? If so, no guarantee that plug will work with an RIA full length guide rod.

          BTW -- a full length mil spec guide rod is an oxymoron.
          Last edited by littlejake; 06-24-2012, 9:47 AM.
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          • #6
            redcliff
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2008
            • 5676

            Just get a standard g.i. type guide rod and recoil spring plug from someone like Ed Brown and be done with that full length guide rod silliness. I only tolerate those on bull barrel and cone compensated barrels without standard bushings.
            "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
            "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
            "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

            "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
            although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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            • #7
              littlejake
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 2168

              Originally posted by redcliff
              Just get a standard g.i. type guide rod and recoil spring plug from someone like Ed Brown and be done with that full length guide rod silliness. I only tolerate those on bull barrel and cone compensated barrels without standard bushings.
              Amen. I tossed the 2 piece full length guide rod in my SA loaded model. Went with Brownells part #100-003-258WB


              and guide rod 296-000-113WB


              Before:


              After:
              Last edited by littlejake; 06-24-2012, 9:44 AM.
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              Nothing I post should be construed as legal advice; if you need legal advice, see a lawyer.

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              William Pitt (1759-1806)

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              • #8
                Brandon04GT
                In Memoriam
                • Feb 2011
                • 3016

                Originally posted by 1911Luvr
                You can just use an empty .45 case until you find the plug.
                I just looked this up and wow!!! I didn't know that!



                You almost learn something new about the 1911 every day...

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                • #9
                  akjunkie
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                  • Jan 2005
                  • 3484

                  Originally posted by littlejake
                  Amen. I tossed the 2 piece full length guide rod in my SA loaded model. Went with Brownells part #100-003-258WB


                  and guide rod 296-000-113WB


                  Before:


                  After:
                  I have the same setup on all my other 1911s. I tried that on the RIA and I couldnt pull the slide back.

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                  • #10
                    WWDHD?
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 2668

                    Originally posted by littlejake
                    I'm pretty sure it is. I swapped the 2 piece full length guide rod in my SA 1911 loaded model to a GI type guide and plug. I used Brownells part #100-003-258WB from Nighthawk Custom -- NHC part number BR0313. It has a small tab indented to screw onto the recoil spring to help capture it (no guarantee) -- every 1911 owner needs a couple of these in his spare parts bin and range bag.

                    Don't feel bad about losing one -- heck, I broke a window when one got away about 40 years ago!
                    Ha ha. First time I disassembled my RIA Tac (first 1911 for me) I almost shot my eye out with that plug. Safety glasses for me for now on.
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                    • #11
                      littlejake
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 2168

                      Originally posted by akjunkie
                      I have the same setup on all my other 1911s. I tried that on the RIA and I couldnt pull the slide back.
                      You don't by chance have the Commander version? It's shorter and requires a shorter plug and recoil guide.
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                      Nothing I post should be construed as legal advice; if you need legal advice, see a lawyer.

                      "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                      William Pitt (1759-1806)

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                      • #12
                        markw
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 821

                        Originally posted by WWDHD?
                        Ha ha. First time I disassembled my RIA Tac (first 1911 for me) I almost shot my eye out with that plug. Safety glasses for me for now on.
                        I had a guy loose one of those over the side on midwatch one night. Bonehead was bored and wanted to see how the gun was assembled. Lucky for him there was a barge between the ship and dock, and it landed on that. He got it back, but funny how he had to requalify and stand a ton of mid watches after that.

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                        • #13
                          akjunkie
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                          • Jan 2005
                          • 3484

                          Originally posted by littlejake
                          You don't by chance have the Commander version? It's shorter and requires a shorter plug and recoil guide.
                          Nope, have the full size model. I do notice the 1pc guide rod has a groove that sits on the barrel link. Wonder if that makes a difference.

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                          • #14
                            littlejake
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 2168

                            Originally posted by akjunkie
                            Nope, have the full size model. I do notice the 1pc guide rod has a groove that sits on the barrel link. Wonder if that makes a difference.
                            Yes it would. The normal guide rests in the frame and has two "legs that contact the barrel.

                            I can find no evidence that it should have that groove -- any chance that's just worn into the guide?
                            Last edited by littlejake; 06-24-2012, 5:13 PM.
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                            My posts are my own opinions and do not reflect those of any organization I am a member of.
                            Nothing I post should be construed as legal advice; if you need legal advice, see a lawyer.

                            "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                            William Pitt (1759-1806)

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                            • #15
                              akjunkie
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                              • Jan 2005
                              • 3484

                              Originally posted by littlejake
                              Yes it would. The normal guide rests in the frame and has two "legs that contact the barrel.

                              I can find no evidence that it should have that groove -- any chance that's just worn into the guide?
                              No, this groove is "Factory" from RIA. This gun only has 500rds thru it.

                              I'll post pics when I can.

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