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  • mvrk
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 16

    9mm vs .40

    Looking in to buying a Sig SP2022 but I'm torn on which model. I would really like to know pros and cons between the 9mm vs a .40. I'm really looking for opinions on the calibre as opposed to the model of the gun, unless one is seriously better than the other in this specific model.

    Any help is appreciated!

    First post came out completely wrong so I'm editing it before I get labeled as the biggest douche on the website.
    Last edited by mvrk; 06-19-2012, 10:56 PM.
  • #2
    gant
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1451

    what county do you live in? look into the 2nd amendment section of this site and see if your county has a thread, im almost done getting my ccw did my fingerprints today

    with modern day ammo specs, a 9mm is a great choice, follow up shots and recoil depending on YOU will be easier, like countless threads say most prefer a smaller caliber due to the shot placement argument vs big caliber




    i see this thread about to start a 9mm vs 40 S&W war already
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    • #3
      Chaos47
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2010
      • 6615

      OP PM'd
      Welcome to Calguns!
      Last edited by Chaos47; 06-19-2012, 11:46 PM.

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      • #4
        mvrk
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 16

        thanks for the quick reply,

        how about stopping power? is there a big difference or not so much? hopefully you don't know from experience!

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        • #5
          Shapes And Colors
          Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 342

          Just to clarify...you want a concealed carry permit but don't care if the gun conceals well? Not bashing you, it just seems like the "so what, let them see my gun" thing defeats the purpose of concealment. And you'll care how it performs on the range when you practice with it.

          As far as your pros and cons, are you simply talking about the calibers themselves? I'm not incredibly "in the know" on sigs, but if the difference is strictly the caliber, find what you shoot best.
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          • #6
            JON KARGATHALON
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 299

            9mm can be just as deadly as a 45. depending on where the hit is struck in my opinion. what you gain is capacity(not for us 10 rounders tho) of more shots with a 9mm. Also, and this is just speculation, there is slightly less recoil with a 9mm, which could put extra milaseconds in your favor for faster followup shots.

            I will not argue with a 45.'s sheer bullet weight and stopping power, as i agree a good JHP will shred pretty much anything it hits.

            Now a 40. is what i consider a compromise between a 9mm and a 45. its heavier than a 9mm, but also travels faster than a 45. Its really up to you as to which you would prefer
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            • #7
              mvrk
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 16

              Originally posted by Chaos47
              This will not end well.
              You can't just bold certain sections and skew what I'm saying, makes you sound like a prosecutor! Let me just clarify that I'm not looking to use this thing like an airsoft gun, it will primarily stay at home in a safe. BUT, when we do go to bad areas I want to have it with me (legally).

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              • #8
                -hanko
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jul 2002
                • 14174

                Originally posted by mvrk
                Looking in to buying a Sig SP2022 but I'm torn on which model. I don't care about how it will perform in competition or on the range, I simply want to be able to scare or bring down somebody threatening myself or my family. I will hopefully get a CCW, but I don't really care for it to be super stealthy, if they know it is there then they should assume I know how to use it. So basically I guess I'm just looking for pros and cons.

                Any help is appreciated!
                This is indeed Tuesday.

                You want the largest caliber that you can comfortably shoot...so your homework is rent or borrow a few guns and see what happens.

                WHY did you pick the Sig?

                Next you need to check relative ammo costs, not to "bring down" somebody but for rounds you use to shoot in practice so you know wtf you're doing when you really need the gun.

                Third, you need to hook up with a professional trainer so what you need to do becomes instinctive...that doesn't happen on the web or going to the range every week with your buds.

                Fourth, you don't use a loaded gun to "scare" someone...

                Fifth, no one will assume anything about you if they see a gun...if they're professional and you're making assumptions you're dedd before you know what happened.

                Finally, google "9mm v. .45" without the quotes and have a great evening.

                -hanko
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                • #9
                  mvrk
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 16

                  Originally posted by JON KARGATHALON
                  9mm can be just as deadly as a 45. depending on where the hit is struck in my opinion. what you gain is capacity(not for us 10 rounders tho) of more shots with a 9mm. Also, and this is just speculation, there is slightly less recoil with a 9mm, which could put extra milaseconds in your favor for faster followup shots.

                  I will not argue with a 45.'s sheer bullet weight and stopping power, as i agree a good JHP will shred pretty much anything it hits.

                  Now a 40. is what i consider a compromise between a 9mm and a 45. its heavier than a 9mm, but also travels faster than a 45. Its really up to you as to which you would prefer
                  Thank you, very informative.

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                  • #10
                    elfstone
                    Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 168

                    OP, there is a couple questionable things in your post. Chaos has bolded them for your consideration.
                    Just thoughts: Owning a gun is not for scaring people. It's more important that you and only you know all about your gun vs. anyone to assume you know how to use it.
                    I would recommend the 9mm of SP2022, its a good gun.
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                    • #11
                      tonelar
                      Dinosaur
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6081

                      You might look into taking a defensive pistol course.
                      There're many 9mm vs .40sw threads already.

                      The better caliber will be the one you can be the most accurate with... What have you shot previously?

                      The reason your first post is quoted by more than one response is because they show where you need to really consider your motivation for looking into handgun ownership.
                      Last edited by tonelar; 06-19-2012, 10:53 PM.
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                      • #12
                        mvrk
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 16

                        Originally posted by -hanko
                        WHY did you pick the Sig?

                        Third, you need to hook up with a professional trainer so what you need to do becomes instinctive...that doesn't happen on the web or going to the range every week with your buds.

                        Fourth, you don't use a loaded gun to "scare" someone...

                        -hanko
                        1. I'm interested in the Sig because it felt really good in my hand, I liked the feel of it much more than the XD I looked at.

                        2. I do intend to get some sort of training, would really like to do some sort of home defense training as that is my primary reason for wanting one of these.

                        3. I don't intend to use it to scare somebody on the streets, but it is added comfort knowing it is there if somebody threatens us.

                        I realize my first post may have come off a little, "I just played GTA 4" now I want to get a gun. But that is not at all why I want it, I want to be able to protect my home and my family wherever we may be. Isn't that why we all want to own one?

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                        • #13
                          Chaos47
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 6615

                          Originally posted by mvrk
                          You can't just bold certain sections and skew what I'm saying, makes you sound like a prosecutor! Let me just clarify that I'm not looking to use this thing like an airsoft gun, it will primarily stay at home in a safe. BUT, when we do go to bad areas I want to have it with me.

                          I think you need to take some time and do a bit of reading about how hard it is to get a LTC and also what it means to conceal carry.

                          Welcome to Calguns! It really is a great place, don't let the responses you get from this thread scare you off...
                          Last edited by Chaos47; 06-19-2012, 11:14 PM.

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                          • #14
                            jvpark
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1793

                            .40 without a doubt... this is coming from a big 9mm fan.

                            I let my wife shoot the 9mm.
                            Last edited by jvpark; 06-19-2012, 10:58 PM.




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                            • #15
                              ClarenceBoddicker
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2783

                              Originally posted by mvrk
                              Looking in to buying a Sig SP2022 but I'm torn on which model. I don't care about how it will perform in competition or on the range, I simply want to be able to scare or bring down somebody threatening myself or my family. I will hopefully get a CCW, but I don't really care for it to be super stealthy, if they know it is there then they should assume I know how to use it. So basically I guess I'm just looking for pros and cons.

                              Any help is appreciated!
                              I may be wrong, but you sound like a gun noob. Nothing wrong with that, but it's easy to not think things thru before spending your money. Don't get stuck on a model or where a gun is built until to do a lot of research & testing. IMO, a Glock is the best handgun for a noob to learn on. After getting your shooting basics down, then figure out if you want a striker fired, single action or DAO/hybrid action. Then shop by budget & ergonomics. For what you want to do, there is no meaningful difference between 9mm or .40, except for possible (a bit pointless for post 2000 CA) magazine capacity. For me, firepower is more important than following LE trends. 9mm is the choice for me as it's IMO the best overall pistol round made. I'd rather have some extra rounds on board in case I miss due to stress/panic.

                              The best pistol for self defense is the one that never gets displayed. You are much better off not exposing your family to criminals. If you live in a bad area, move to a better one even if you have to give up the smart phone plans. Home defense is a bit complicated due to laws & moral responsibilities. The best home defense weapon would be a SBS or submachine gun, but that is not practical since 1934. Shotguns are good, if you don't have to move around too much. Pistols are better in cramped quarters. Your home will dictate the best HD tool. Always use ammo that is not likely to endanger any neighbors or people outside your home. Securely storing HD weapons is another issue. Pistols are much easier to keep locked up next to your bed.

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