Ruger "Charger"..CA available?

[Rudolf the Red]

You can get one if you have the proper set up.

Parent or grandparent live in a gun friendly state? It's yours.

LEO friend? It's yours.

Ask me how!

[CHS]

It's a 10/22 RIFLE receiver in a Charger type handgun stock with a greater than 16" bbl. So it's not a handgun, it's not an SBR - but it evidently isn't a rifle (like the Browning M@ or 1919) because it isn't shoulder fired. I don't know if not being a rifle means the gun can be owned in CA, or if it can not.

With a 16" barrel it's just a title 1 long gun.

And most likely they aren't a rifle receiver. They were probably virgin receivers purchased from ruger for the express purpose of building these guns.

They aren't handguns, so you can get one in CA, but they are title 1 long guns, which means you still need to be 21 to purchase.

[CHS]

You can get one if you have the proper set up.

Parent or grandparent live in a gun friendly state? It's yours.

LEO friend? It's yours.

Ask me how!

Better lock down that magazine, otherwise you're in posession of an illegal unregistered assault weapon.

[dfletcher]

With a 16" barrel it's just a title 1 long gun.

And most likely they aren't a rifle receiver. They were probably virgin receivers purchased from ruger for the express purpose of building these guns.

They aren't handguns, so you can get one in CA, but they are title 1 long guns, which means you still need to be 21 to purchase.

So how about buying a Ruger 10/22 receiver only - sold as a rifle - and building it into a Charger style with a +16" bbl and an OAL of +30 in the Hornet stock, that would also make it a title 1 long gun and OK to possess in CA if the owner is +21, correct?

I've shot the Charger, it's fun & much smaller than it appears in photos. I'm wondering if all that barrel and length in the CA type version would be a spoiler.

[CHS]

So how about buying a Ruger 10/22 receiver only - sold as a rifle - and building it into a Charger style with a +16" bbl and an OAL of +30 in the Hornet stock, that would also make it a title 1 long gun and OK to possess in CA if the owner is +21, correct?

I've shot the Charger, it's fun & much smaller than it appears in photos. I'm wondering if all that barrel and length in the CA type version would be a spoiler.

No.

You don't buy a 10/22 receiver AS A RIFLE. You buy it as a virgin receiver where it would be classified as a title 1 firearm frame/receiver. It can be dros'ed/4473'ed to you as a "long gun" or "receiver", and then you can legally build it into pistol or rifle or shotgun or "other long gun" configuration. If you built it as a pistol, you would have to self-register it.

But if it's a rifle receiver, I'm pretty sure you can't then build it as an unstocked long gun.

*YOU* can't get a virgin 10/22 receiver from ruger, and the ones on gunbroker are pulled from assembled 10/22's that had stocks, so they are still considered rifles.

You CAN buy a bare virgin receiver from NoDak Spud for 140$, and then choose to build it how you like.

Just remember, if it's a pistol, you have to register it and lock the mag.

[ZOMBIEHUNTER]

I just moved to Nevada they go on sale here for 299.99 its on my christmas wishlist

[JeffM]

It's more expensive, but it will become an option once the NERF situation gets ironed out:

http://www.nodakspud.com/NDS-22.htm

I'm thinking about getting this one:

[dfletcher]

No.

You don't buy a 10/22 receiver AS A RIFLE. You buy it as a virgin receiver where it would be classified as a title 1 firearm frame/receiver. It can be dros'ed/4473'ed to you as a "long gun" or "receiver", and then you can legally build it into pistol or rifle or shotgun or "other long gun" configuration. If you built it as a pistol, you would have to self-register it.

But if it's a rifle receiver, I'm pretty sure you can't then build it as an unstocked long gun.

*YOU* can't get a virgin 10/22 receiver from ruger, and the ones on gunbroker are pulled from assembled 10/22's that had stocks, so they are still considered rifles.

You CAN buy a bare virgin receiver from NoDak Spud for 140$, and then choose to build it how you like.

Just remember, if it's a pistol, you have to register it and lock the mag.

I understand regarding DROS'ing the "naked frame" only as seeming the best choice. That gets me a fixed 10 round mag handgun. And with the lousy fflat actory mag release from Ruger it will be easy to BB. Not too bad, but I have many 10/22 hi caps and if going the stripped rifle frame, +16" bbl and +30" OAL is a legal option - which seems to be the "I don't know" in the equation for now - I might like to try that approach instead of the handgun approach.

Wouldn't a Ruger 10/22 in a Hornet handgun stock with a +16" bbl and +30" OAL be legally the same as a 1919 or M2 50 cal? Centerfire aside, each of them is legal in CA and neither fires from the shoulder or has a "shoulder stock".

[Gunaria]

I think the only way right now to get one is just like getting any other off roster handgun. Those rules have been hashed out here on a daily basis. The other way is to build your own.

[jazman]

No offence to anyone who likes the looks of them, but to me it's a major ugly looking POS.

[CHS]

Wouldn't a Ruger 10/22 in a Hornet handgun stock with a +16" bbl and +30" OAL be legally the same as a 1919 or M2 50 cal? Centerfire aside, each of them is legal in CA and neither fires from the shoulder or has a "shoulder stock".

30" is a centerfire-only, california-only thing. If it's a rimfire rifle it only needs to follow the federal 24" minimum.

If it never had a stock, then it's a "long gun" and can be remade into a pistol. This would require a bullet button or magazine locking device or some sort.

[JeffM]

30" is a centerfire-only, california-only thing. If it's a rimfire rifle it only needs to follow the federal 24" minimum.

If it never had a stock, then it's a "Title 1 firearm" (Not a Long Gun) and can be remade into a pistol. This would require a bullet button or magazine locking device or some sort.

Fixed it for you.

[5hundo]

▪ capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside the pistol grip;

...and the nominations for stupidest CA gun laws are:

[ke6guj]

30" is a centerfire-only, california-only thing. If it's a rimfire rifle it only needs to follow the federal 26" minimum.

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