Is this now a 100% legal locked container?

[EricStanley]

If you are going to call me out at least prove your point!

All i meant was carrying concealed isn't worth it to me w/o a CCW license. Don't see how i was giving bad info....

Are you saying its legal to carry a concealed weapon as long as its unloaded?

It's not a "concealed weapon" if it's unloaded. It's an unloaded gun - aka, expensive rock. For it to be a felony the gun has to be loaded. And "loaded" can mean a lot of things (round in the chamber is the obvious one; no round in the chamber but round(s) in the magwell - even if the mag isn't fully seated counts as a loaded gun).

The laws are written to create Fear, Uncertainty, Confusion, and Doubt... which, of course, leaves us all FUCD... unless we take the time to actually read.

Also - the locked container does not have to be "out of reach of the driver." The locked container can be right next to the driver. Hell, the driver can be wearing the locked container around his neck like Flava Flave for all the gun law cares. It just has to be LOCKED and the gun has to be unloaded. And yes, loaded magazines CAN be in the same LOCKED container as the gun itself - so long as the magazines are not even partially inserted into the mag well.

[undercow16969]

Good enough for TSA why not ZOIDBERG!

[stix213]

Just because they didn't find his gun doesn't mean its legal...

concealed is concealed, loaded or not i wouldn't chance it. A felony means you can't have guns so not worth it to me.

First of all if the gun is registered to you, illegally concealing isn't a felony. Second, this topic has been gone over many many times with all the relavent penal codes linked (usually in the 2A forum). There are various places you can do it, and destinations you can be going to. You're basically following all the laws with regard to transporting in a locked container that you use any time you transport a handgun.

[john67elco]

Just because they didn't find his gun doesn't mean its legal...

concealed is concealed, loaded or not i wouldn't chance it. A felony means you can't have guns so not worth it to me.

[EricStanley]

Are you sure about this ?

I was told that the ammo and gun need to be in separate locked containers.

Yes, I'm sure. Read the PC. It says nothing about the ammo needing to be in a locked container and it says nothing about the ammo needing to be in a separate container from the gun. It only discusses a "loaded" gun or an "unloaded" gun.

When I transport my handgun the mags are loaded and in the same locked container with the gun, but the gun is unloaded.

[Raptor3000]

So, trunk of SUV is not considered locked box?

Thanks

[paul0660]

It's not a "concealed weapon" if it's unloaded. It's an unloaded gun - aka, expensive rock.

Wrong. The statute concerning concealment does not mention loaded.

Ammo is ok in the same case if not in the gun (loaded).

LUCC is thought by many to be ok.

[EricStanley]

Wrong. The statute concerning concealment does not mention loaded.

Ammo is ok in the same case if not in the gun (loaded).

LUCC is thought by many to be ok.

If you're talking about carrying an unloaded weapon in a concealed manner (holster under a jacket, for example) outside of a locked container, then yes you are correct. What is being discussed here is the locked container. The comment made earlier is that carrying an unloaded gun in a locked range bag is the same as concealing a weapon. That's what I'm addressing.

[paul0660]

That's what I'm addressing.

It's concealing a weapon, but not illegally.

There is no time that a weapon, including the serialized frame, becomes a rock. You seem to have a handle on this, but using that terminology is going to confuse others.

As someone else mentioned, illegally concealing an unloaded gun not registered to you can be charged as a felony, otherwise it is a misdemeanor. Illegally carrying a loaded gun is a felony only in specific instances, otherwise it is a misdemeanor.

[someR1]

The bag is closed.
the bag is locked.
the bag is not a glove compartment.
Therefore 100% legal

[winnre]