So all new Glock purchases must be transfered by December 31st?

[OLD-skool454#3]

So I got to thinking and started calling around to different gun stores, but could not get a consensus. If Glock discontinued Glock pistols for California then they have no need to renew their ROSTER status meaning all Glocks will as of January 1st be off roster and not transferrable? A couple stores said they think they would still be able to deliver them to new owners but really didn't know, a couple others said we have til July 2026. The rest were at a loss for words when I asked if Glock does not renew then they'll be off roster and anyone with a layaway or waiting on their 10 days that has not taken possession of their gun by December 31st is not receiving their pistol/s? Turner's said it was up to their lawyers? Kinda sad because ine of the most popular gun stores locally had not even considered the roster part of it and told me to call back in a couple days as they tried to find the answer. I'll admit, I like some others, have a Glock on layaway and assumed I was good even if it went into January, but that may not be the case now specially since my FFL had told me they would still transfer Glocks...even after December 31st... So, those of you who have a Glock or clone on layaway or were waiting to start your DROS later in December may want to confirm with your FFL.

[The Gleam]

So I got to thinking and started calling around to different gun stores, but could not get a consensus. If Glock discontinued Glock pistols for California then they have no need to renew their ROSTER status meaning all Glocks will as of January 1st be off roster and not transferrable? A couple stores said they think they would still be able to deliver them to new owners but really didn't know, a couple others said we have til July 2026. The rest were at a loss for words when I asked if Glock does not renew then they'll be off roster and anyone with a layaway or waiting on their 10 days that has not taken possession of their gun by December 31st is not receiving their pistol/s? Turner's said it was up to their lawyers?

Historically in this sh;thole state, and for just about any Anti-2nd Amendment legislation as it pertained to firearm bans, the CA DOJ advised that so long as it was DROSed by the last day before the civil-right infringement went into force, an FFL could provide delivery of that firearm up to the 30 day deadline date for the buyer's pick-up.

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[davidj]

So I got to thinking and started calling around to different gun stores, but could not get a consensus. If Glock discontinued Glock pistols for California then they have no need to renew their ROSTER status meaning all Glocks will as of January 1st be off roster and not transferrable? A couple stores said they think they would still be able to deliver them to new owners but really didn't know, a couple others said we have til July 2026. The rest were at a loss for words when I asked if Glock does not renew then they'll be off roster and anyone with a layaway or waiting on their 10 days that has not taken possession of their gun by December 31st is not receiving their pistol/s? Turner's said it was up to their lawyers? Kinda sad because ine of the most popular gun stores locally had not even considered the roster part of it and told me to call back in a couple days as they tried to find the answer. I'll admit, I like some others, have a Glock on layaway and assumed I was good even if it went into January, but that may not be the case now specially since my FFL had told me they would still transfer Glocks...even after December 31st... So, those of you who have a Glock or clone on layaway or were waiting to start your DROS later in December may want to confirm with your FFL.

I assume that Glock will renew the Gen 3 for 2026. They are hoping that the new V model will be accepted by the state as the replacement to the Gen 3's.

[Devilock04]

I assume that Glock will renew the Gen 3 for 2026. They are hoping that the new V model will be accepted by the state as the replacement to the Gen 3's.

I’m of the opinion that the DOJ is going to say the V models are too different, as they’re Gen 5 based instead of Gen 3. The frame is different with no finger grooves and an ambi slide release. Plus the internals of the slide like the firing pin safety, and the extractor are different. Gen 5 Glocks were never on the roster. The way I interpret the law is that Glock would have had to make a Gen 3 V.

I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

[Garbcollector]

I assume that Glock will renew the Gen 3 for 2026. They are hoping that the new V model will be accepted by the state as the replacement to the Gen 3's.

The new V model is going need all of the compliant garbage in order to make the roster will see if glock wants to step up and offer some models.

[davidj]

I’m of the opinion that the DOJ is going to say the V models are too different, as they’re Gen 5 based instead of Gen 3. The frame is different with no finger grooves and an ambi slide release. Plus the internals of the slide like the firing pin safety, and the extractor are different. Gen 5 Glocks were never on the roster. The way I interpret the law is that Glock would have had to make a Gen 3 V.

I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

Glock did make more changes on the V model that did not need to be-to keep it as a direct replacement to the Gen 3. The question is why did Glock do that? Did they have some discussions within the state for some feedback on those changes, that they would still be acceptable? It makes no sense to come out with a V model with having no intentions to be on the roster as a gen 3 replacement.

[mossy]

Glock did make more changes on the V model that did not need to be-to keep it as a direct replacement to the Gen 3. The question is why did Glock do that? Did they have some discussions within the state for some feedback on those changes, that they would still be acceptable? It makes no sense to come out with a V model with having no intentions to be on the roster as a gen 3 replacement.

because they got scared after CA and a bunch of other liberal states sued them over full auto conversions. no, they didn't have conversations with CA, if they did and it came out that CA "helped" Glock create the V model, Glock would be boycotted in free America. why would Glock continue to sell guns in CA when CA is part of the reason for the V and "gen 6"?

[Capybara]

No more Glocks for Commifornia.

[davidj]

because they got scared after CA and a bunch of other liberal states sued them over full auto conversions. no, they didn't have conversations with CA, if they did and it came out that CA "helped" Glock create the V model, Glock would be boycotted in free America. why would Glock continue to sell guns in CA when CA is part of the reason for the V and "gen 6"?

One would be assuming that a company the size of Glock, did not have some legal representative on their behalf, have a discussion with DOJ for clarification on the new law. I say that because it makes no sense for Glock to come out with a older version of a gen 5 as the new V model, and also come out with a new Gen 6 model. If they had no intention to try and get it back on the roster as the V replacement, then why build it? They should have just come out with the Gen 6 and if they wanted it on the roster-put the lci-mag disconnect on it.

[Devilock04]

Glock did make more changes on the V model that did not need to be-to keep it as a direct replacement to the Gen 3. The question is why did Glock do that? Did they have some discussions within the state for some feedback on those changes, that they would still be acceptable? It makes no sense to come out with a V model with having no intentions to be on the roster as a gen 3 replacement.

Probably cheaper to streamline the manufacturing the process and eliminate the molds and unique parts needed for the Gen 3 frames.

I think they’re writing off California. Other states where Gen 5 Glocks are able to be sold were suing also, so they focused on those states.

The Gen V are just a stop gap until the Gen 6 guns become available.

[morrcarr67]

I assume that Glock will renew the Gen 3 for 2026. They are hoping that the new V model will be accepted by the state as the replacement to the Gen 3's.

I see absolutely no reason for them to do so. The Gen 1-5 will be banned in the state of CA come July 1st 2026. They have discontinued manufacturing of all guns that aren't a Gen V. Why would they pay for a product that they no longer make? Even if CA approves the new Gen V as a replacement for the rostered Gen 3's, they would still require them to be tested and create a new listing for them, which would require a new payment to play in CA.

Personally, I don't see CA allowing the Gen V as a replacement for the Gen 3. They are using the Gen 5; which is not on the roster, as a starting point for the Gen V. I could be wrong, and hope I am for gun owners in CA sake.

[davidj]

I see absolutely no reason for them to do so. The Gen 1-5 will be banned in the state of CA come July 1st 2026. They have discontinued manufacturing of all guns that aren't a Gen V. Why would they pay for a product that they no longer make? Even if CA approves the new Gen V as a replacement for the rostered Gen 3's, they would still require them to be tested and create a new listing for them, which would require a new payment to play in CA.

Personally, I don't see CA allowing the Gen V as a replacement for the Gen 3. They are using the Gen 5; which is not on the roster, as a starting point for the Gen V. I could be wrong, and hope I am for gun owners in CA sake.

For Glock to renew it for 2026, it is only a few hundred dollars to do so, per model- last I heard. That would allow any inventory still left at any FFL to be sold off for 6 more months, and also allow people to purchase any from out of state sellers as well-Gen 3's.

[husky44]

I'm getting older and starting to reduce my inventory of firearms. I bought a G22 and G27 about 5-years ago from a local gun store (new). I'm guessing G3's. Bought extra mags and over $700 in factory ammo.
Should I consider selling this month or will they just be locked in the safe until my children have to deal with it?

[davidj]

I'm getting older and starting to reduce my inventory of firearms. I bought a G22 and G27 about 5-years ago from a local gun store (new). I'm guessing G3's. Bought extra mags and over $700 in factory ammo.
Should I consider selling this month or will they just be locked in the safe until my children have to deal with it?

You will be able to still keep it. There is no law that says you have to get rid of it.

[foothillman]

Currently it has to be DROS before 1/1/2026
12/9/2025 Glock has not renewed any but that can still change.
As long as it falls off Roster from "not renewing" it can be delivered on or after 1/1/2026

https://www.oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search?make=150972

32015
(a) On and after January 1, 2001, the Department of Justice shall compile, publish, and thereafter maintain a roster listing all of the handguns that have been tested by a certified testing laboratory, have been determined not to be unsafe handguns, and may be sold in this state pursuant to this part. The roster shall list, for each firearm, the manufacturer, model number, and model name.

(b) (1) The department may charge every person in this state who is licensed as a manufacturer of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state for sale, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale any handgun in this state, an annual fee not exceeding the costs of preparing, publishing, and maintaining the roster pursuant to subdivision (a) and the costs of research and development, report analysis, firearms storage, and other program infrastructure costs necessary to implement Sections 31900 to 32110, inclusive. Commencing January 1, 2015, the annual fee shall be paid on January 1, or the next business day, of every year.

(2) Any handgun that is manufactured by a manufacturer who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state for sale, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale any handgun in this state, and who fails to pay any fee required pursuant to paragraph (1), may be excluded from the roster.

(3) If a purchaser has initiated a transfer of a handgun that is listed on the roster as not unsafe, and prior to the completion of the transfer, the handgun is removed from the roster of not unsafe handguns because of failure to pay the fee required to keep that handgun listed on the roster, the handgun shall be deliverable to the purchaser if the purchaser is not otherwise prohibited from purchasing or possessing the handgun. However, if a purchaser has initiated a transfer of a handgun that is listed on the roster as not unsafe, and prior to the completion of the transfer, the handgun is removed from the roster pursuant to subdivision (d) of Section 32020, the handgun shall not be deliverable to the purchaser.

(Amended by Stats. 2013, Ch. 758, Sec. 4. (SB 363) Effective January 1, 2014.)