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  • #31
    Reno-Kid
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2021
    • 2391

    Originally posted by Garbcollector


    Wow.. Hopefully they don't forget us folks trapped in California and make a complaint "v" model
    "V" is for 5, as in Gen5 and just could be rebranding and changing the stamp/etching to say "V", or "GenV" on the slide instead of "Gen5".

    And since Gen5 can't be modified to accept switch it's legal for California already. Kinda forces Glock to make California compliant Gen5.

    Ruger, Sig, others have shown CA compliant guns are easy to make.


    Last edited by Reno-Kid; 10-21-2025, 6:10 PM.

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    • #32
      The Gleam
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 11699

      Originally posted by SDM44
      Don't be surprised to see some new BS law written up saying since there's a new replacement Glock that's consided "safe" and won't allow switches, then any cruciform trigger firearm already in the hands of a CA resident, will be banned.

      If that happens, your options would be to take it out of state or sell it to a non-CA resident, or have it disposed of which means turning your guns into the police and getting zero compensation for it. Of course LEOs would be exempt from this, which would make no logical sense. We would obviously win that legal battle..... eventually, and many years down the road. And unfortunately if that happens, those BS laws would be the rule of the land until the case is completely finalized. Any ruling in our favor is always immediately appealed to the 9th Circus, so it would be a long battle that I hope never happens.
      I won't be surprised because this will never happen.

      I've been fighting Anti-2nd Amendment legislation in CA nearly 40 years, and I've got a finger on the pulse of what they would like to do - which is to your point - and what they can actually get done.

      Such as the 10% to 11% tax that they had been pursuing for the past 25 years. I was not surprised when they authored it, and was not surprised when it passed under this super-majority. I knew one day, that would eventually hook.

      However, there is no precedent or logic for an outright ban on possession of Glocks - historical treatment of firearms previously deemed banned/unsafe or nefarious remain legal to own and or sell by way of PPT.

      At most, they can only ban future import or new sales, just as they have done. I could see an attempt to ban PPTs but it would be a mistake, as that could lead to an invite of off-book illegal sales out of desperation for what is otherwise a comon firearm. And if they did? And forced to sell out of state? They would likely see a 'dumping guns' lawsuit from other states and face a restriction, having no special emergency circumstance to ban Glocks in this manner.

      Registration is already applicable, so it's not a dire need to require 'further' registration and control as was the case with Roberti-Roos, the SB23 Features ban, the Koretz AB50 .50BMG rifle ban, or the Bullet-Button Registration scheme.

      So no - it's great to pitch a grandiose dystopian fantasy to drive enthusiasm for 2nd Amendment activism, makes a great motivator and one to drive purchasing of over-priced Glocks, but a total ban on existing Glocks is a non-thing.

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      Originally posted by Librarian
      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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      • #33
        Snoopy47
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 3835

        A product wide DUMP of all models (except slim line) when it's really only California with the anti-Glock law seems kind of over kill for Glock having never complied with CA since the roster was enacted. Right? So NO ONE ANYWHERE (Civilian, and I presume government contracts are exempt and will be filled with whatever they want if they buy enough of them) is going to be getting ANTHING PRE Model V.

        Since then Springfield, S&W, SIG, Kimber, ect have all ADDED guns to the roster as Glock sits by and collects dust of innovation they have been riding since the 1980's.

        I get a feeling Glock is cooking up something that's WAY MORE important to them than kowtowing to California.

        Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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        • #34
          enorbit3
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 2631

          I read here on the forums that other states are fast tracking laws similar to the CA Glock ban. Assuming they do that and a judge stays the ruling pending SCOTUS, perhaps that would prevent any new Glock sales with the cruciform trigger bar. Maybe Glock sees the writing in the wall and wants to get a jump on it by modifying the design. As dumb as CA politicians are, there are other ready to follow suit.
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          • #35
            Reno-Kid
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2021
            • 2391

            Originally posted by Raptor3000
            Glock may have to add LCI and mag disconnect to model V right?
            Well what are those Glock Engineers doing at work all day! Someone needs to put a boot up their Austrian butt's.....Get a move on!

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            • #36
              Capybara
              CGSSA Coordinator
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2012
              • 15026

              Originally posted by enorbit3
              I read here on the forums that other states are fast tracking laws similar to the CA Glock ban. Assuming they do that and a judge stays the ruling pending SCOTUS, perhaps that would prevent any new Glock sales with the cruciform trigger bar. Maybe Glock sees the writing in the wall and wants to get a jump on it by modifying the design. As dumb as CA politicians are, there are other ready to follow suit.
              Also, there are multiple lawsuits and pending lawsuits all across the country for Glock's "negligence" for not correcting this years ago. If you think about it, any product on the market, not just guns, gets "hacked" all of the time and people find ways to use them that they manufacturer never would have conceived. Think about a leaf blower. The company conceived it to blow leaves in people's yards. Then look at all of the crazy extreme sports, stunts, BS that people are using them for like blowing the wigs off of black women in public (Yes, this is a thing, I've seen dozens of YouTube videos). Should the manufacturer of the leaf blowers be able to be sued by the Black women whose wigs were blown off? No, of course not, ridiculous but that is precisely what is happening to Glock.

              Idiots and criminals who don't care about risking dozens of years in jail popularized the Glock Switch or did the Chinese start making them first (makes me wonder if WISH or some other Chinese company invented it at the command of the CCP?) Regardless, auto sears, lightning links, etc. can all easily be made by almost anyone with just a rudimentary understanding of how a semi auto firearms functions. Should all manufacturers of semi auto firearms be blamed and sued out of existence? Of course not but that is exactly what our enemies will go for next.

              Last edited by Capybara; 10-22-2025, 11:09 AM.
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              • #37
                kenl
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 1711

                Originally posted by Reno-Kid

                "V" is for 5, as in Gen5 and just could be rebranding and changing the stamp/etching to say "V", or "GenV" on the slide instead of "Gen5".

                And since Gen5 can't be modified to accept switch it's legal for California already. Kinda forces Glock to make California compliant Gen5.

                Ruger, Sig, others have shown CA compliant guns are easy to make.

                I think this, using the gen 5 as the base, then adding the glock performance trigger to get rid of the crusiform trigger system. They already have all of the parts, all that needs to be done is throw them together and stamp a new logo on the slide.
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                • #38
                  finasteride
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 8

                  Glock V What does this mean legally.

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                  • #39
                    tacticalcity
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 10907

                    Originally posted by Garbcollector


                    Wow.. Hopefully they don't forget us folks trapped in California and make a complaint "v" model
                    Nobody in their right might would buy a California compliant Glock given the requirements to get a new gun on the roster. It wouldn't be a Glock any more. It would be GINO "Glock In Name Only".

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                    • #40
                      bohoki
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 20792

                      the consensus of the toobers are theorizing they will just be using the years old "glock performance trigger"
                      but it changes the glock to a partialy charged striker using the trigger bar sear to a fully charged striker in which the trigger bar just pushes down to release the sear

                      just search glock performance trigger on the toobs

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                      • #41
                        Capybara
                        CGSSA Coordinator
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 15026

                        Originally posted by kenl

                        I think this, using the gen 5 as the base, then adding the glock performance trigger to get rid of the crusiform trigger system. They already have all of the parts, all that needs to be done is throw them together and stamp a new logo on the slide.
                        This would make the most sense for Glock. Rumors have been strong that the modular Gen 6s were to begin dropping next year at some point so this V could fill the pipeline back up with guns, mitigate any further lawsuits, etc. until the Gen 6s are really rolled out.
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                        • #42
                          mjo55
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2024
                          • 58

                          The way I read it, for the pistol to be re-introduced on the roster....it would have to be a gen 3 Austrian made with the only change would be to the cruciform part. So it would be not easily converted to full auto.
                          For it to be a gen 4, 5 or V model it would have to include a mag disconnet and a LCI.

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                          • #43
                            Sputnik
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 2120

                            Originally posted by sigfan91

                            Career politicians should be banned because they might be corrupt.
                            Might be?

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                            • #44
                              jasonem
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 93

                              I’ve been wanting a 40 caliber Glock but they are sold out everywhere in the Bay Area. I called Bass Pro Shops here and all are out of every gen 3 Glock. It’s pretty wild. I don’t know any pawn shops in the Bay Area that sells gen 3 glocks.

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                              • #45
                                jarhead714
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 8040

                                Originally posted by Capybara

                                This would make the most sense for Glock. Rumors have been strong that the modular Gen 6s were to begin dropping next year at some point so this V could fill the pipeline back up with guns, mitigate any further lawsuits, etc. until the Gen 6s are really rolled out.
                                The sales of the V, which should be considerable, should cover the legal nut on the Gen 3 suits which they likely will win. Then they start up production of Gen 3 and 5 again which people will again be happy to buy since they are what was once forbidden to them made again available for purchase at MSRP. It could be a brilliant play by Glock. 👐🏻

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