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  • #16
    Citadelgrad87
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2007
    • 16965

    Originally posted by Preston-CLB

    I agree with is if you are going to mod the trigger. Massad Ayoob has mentioned that in a SD situation a lawyer for the perp may use the fact the gun was modified against you.

    Additionally, some IA's will not allow modified guns to be listed on your permit. It would be a good idea to check on this before doing any mods.

    Both of my carry guns are bone stock, except for fiber optic front sights. I believe it's best to train well, rather than rely on a modification for a carry gun.
    -P
    With respect to Mr. Ayoob, I AM a trial attorney, and this is pretty weak. ONLY in a case where there is some "the gun just went off" would trigger modifications be probative of anything, and therefore they will likely be inadmissable. If you shoot someone 6 times in a self defense encounter, the trigger being light means nothing. Also, I get an attorney, too, and he or she will argue that a lighter trigger means greater accuracy, which in a defense shooting is good.

    I DO train well, I shoot about 500 rounds a month in IDPA, and that training leads me to desire a better trigger on my Glock, because a better trigger means I can shoot it more accurately.
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    • #17
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15575

      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87

      Does not matter to them, any legal modification.
      Lucky you, that's great.
      NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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      • #18
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57171

        Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
        I take a G 19 with an optic as a backup, and it's also on my CCW.
        It's presently bone stock except for a little plug deal I put in the backstrap and of course irons and the red dot.
        The trigger isn't terrible but is pretty Glockish compared to the Legion.

        What trigger is everyone using for carry/light competition?
        Start out by deciding what you prefer in a trigger pull; lighter pull or shorter pull.

        The competition connector makes the trigger pull longer and lighter but you can get similar pull weight with the shorter-pull stock connector by increasing the trigger spring and decreasing the striker spring forces.
        The trigger spring in a glock HELPS pull the striker so going to a heavier spring makes the pull lighter which is backwards from most guns where the trigger spring is for the reset.
        Don't go too light in the striker spring or you will get misfires.
        Going to a lighter striker will let you run the lighter springs as the higher speed of the lighter striker makes up the energy-on-primer that you need for reliable ignition.

        The single greatest improvement you can do on glock triggers is an overtravel stop screw to limit the overtravel.
        There is a lot of overtravel in the stock trigger that you can simply eliminate and this gives you a shorter reset before you can pull the trigger again.
        I do this type of work for people that may be interested.
        Randall Rausch

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        • #19
          Markbsae
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2023
          • 90

          I have put Haley Skimmers in both of mine. I don't know how they compare to others but I was very happy with the results.

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          • #20
            tacticalcity
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Aug 2006
            • 10929

            I have too many years behind the stock Glock trigger to change it to something "better". Muscle memory is a tricky thing. Once you have it, it's hard to break. My experience with upgrading my AR triggers was that I actually did not like the super light competition trigger. I could never get used to it. It was too light. I have always worried that if I upgraded the Glock trigger, I would experience similar issues. Then again, there have been lots of improvements in these things since I last tried this. And of course, pull weight is only one the many options to choose from. Too many for me, I think. I do know an Apex trigger spring kit fixed the atrocious trigger pull on a Gen 1 S&W SW40P I inherited. In that case, I had not spent years mastering that trigger and it was super heavy and supper long. The upgrade made it a little closer to what I was used to and like. With any luck, the popular APEX Glock trigger upgrades are just as good. Zev has some popular triggers. I see their adjustable fulcrum trigger for sale all the time. However, I am not crazy about the idea of an "adjustable" trigger. I have not researched them at all, but I imagine if it is adjustable I could probably screw it up pretty good making those adjustments. Some research might change my mind on the subject. I am tempted to upgrade my Colt and CMMG made military triggers to Geissele triggers just because of all the hype around them. Then I remember my experience mentioned above. People do love them though. Makes me wonder. A grass is always greener thing, I guess. I think I would start with what the gun will be used for, and how much time do you plan to spend mastering the new trigger pull and building up a specific muscle memory for it? Then make the decision of whether to upgrade from there. Of course, if you are new to the Glock and its trigger pull and don't have it mastered yet this is probably irrelevant. But if you plan to conceal carry it, general wisdom is not to mess with the trigger. Leave that to the competition guns and range toys. I know, I sound old.
            Last edited by tacticalcity; 03-29-2025, 6:12 PM.

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            • #21
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57171

              Originally posted by tacticalcity
              I have too many years behind the stock Glock trigger to change it to something "better". Muscle memory is a tricky thing. Once you have it, it's hard to break.

              Of course, if you are new to the Glock and its trigger pull and don't have it mastered yet this is probably irrelevant. But if you plan to conceal carry it, general wisdom is not to mess with the trigger. Leave that to the competition guns and range toys. I know, I sound old.
              Without exchanging ANY of the stock glock parts, simply limiting the overtravel make the gun nicer to shoot because of the shorter reset distance.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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