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  • Raptor3000
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 2837

    Private Party transfer limit

    Is there a limit on PPTs you can do in a year? The manager at the shooting range i go to, was mentioning that you can only do 6 or 7 PPTs a year. If you do more they have to report to ATF.

    Is it true or is he just does not want people to do PPTs at the range.

    thanks
  • #2
    Paperchasin
    YOU are next!!
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2010
    • 6407

    Not true at all. You can buy as many guns as your bank account (or wife) allows.
    Last edited by Paperchasin; 04-23-2012, 8:35 PM.
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    • #3
      sumdood
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 1108

      You can buy as many as you want by PPT. You can only sell 5 per year.
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      • #4
        morrcarr67
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 15035

        As the buyer NONE.

        As the seller you are allowed 5 transactions a year. You may sell as meny firearms as you'd like in those transactions.
        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

        Originally posted by Erion929

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        • #5
          Nor*Cal
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 2687

          From the CGF Wiki, link found on the top of every page

          Selling as a Private Party

          There is a small limitation on the number of occasions of sales; the penal code says PPT is for "infrequent" transactions, and PC 12070 (c) says

          (c) (1) As used in this section, "infrequent" means:
          (A) For handguns, less than six transactions per calendar year.
          For this purpose, "transaction" means a single sale, lease, or
          transfer of any number of handguns.
          (B) For firearms other than handguns, occasional and without
          regularity.

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          • #6
            Raptor3000
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 2837

            OK there is a limit on how many you can sell.

            thanks

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            • #7
              Subotai
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2010
              • 11289

              Originally posted by Nor*Cal
              From the CGF Wiki, link found on the top of every page

              Selling as a Private Party

              There is a small limitation on the number of occasions of sales; the penal code says PPT is for "infrequent" transactions, and PC 12070 (c) says

              (c) (1) As used in this section, "infrequent" means:
              (A) For handguns, less than six transactions per calendar year.
              For this purpose, "transaction" means a single sale, lease, or
              transfer of any number of handguns.
              (B) For firearms other than handguns, occasional and without
              regularity
              .
              Oh, that's rock solid.
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              • #8
                Nor*Cal
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 2687

                Originally posted by frankm
                Oh, that's rock solid.
                Agreed, I was thinking the same thing when I copied and pasted it. Crazy how vague many of these laws are written. They leave way too much room for interpretation which causes lots confusion.

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                • #9
                  littlejake
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2168

                  Even though the PC says less than 6, I don't think it's a hard limit. If for some reason, you had to sell all your guns, and that was >5, I don't think you'll be hearing from them. It's intent is to prevent people from acting like dealers; so if you conduct your affairs in such a way as to not appear to be a dealer, I think you're OK.

                  And it does say transactions -- but each DROS is a transaction -- the transfer dealer cannot put multiple guns on a DROS; so how do they differentiate between # of transactions and # of guns?
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