Reality check: Colt Python 4" Blued price in CA

[highspeed11]

Shoot the **** out of it and enjoy!

[FortCourageArmory]

There's a particularly nice 6" blue Python on my shelf right now. It's in the price range mentioned.....on the lower side though. Reality is that Pythons are rising in value every year. I bought my first one in 1983 for $325 at National Gun Sales in Northridge, CA. Now, it's worth over $1,500. That's a pretty good return on investment.

[battleship]

In regards to Nickel plated guns, nickel reacts over time to heat and i have been told from a expert at Canyon sports Martinez Ca, that it doesnt take long to show up on the finish as a yellowing of the metal around the areas that take the most heat i.e. the muzzel and the cylinder ends. Ive checked out many a used 44 magnum in nickel plate on gunbroker and gunsamerica web sites, and all photos show this yellowing of the metal to some degree. Sure they do look super shiney, as long as you dont fire them off, also the down side to nickel plate is that you best be wearing white gloves as skin oil reacts, to leave messy finger prints all over the gun , just hard to keep clean, so what you end up with is a shiny paper weight well thats my opinion.

on the the over side stainless steel polished - not matte finish is just as shiny if not more and its far more robust, to out side elements such as heat or genneral dirt. The Colt Python was produced in Nickel for some time but then dropped or replaced with the stainless matte finish, later a ultra bright stainless was produced with black wooden grips, and complete with a spare set of rubber grips. I only know this from info surrplied by colt. Nickel smickel in my mind still i wouldnt pass one up for the right price.

[retired]

Ok, I'm ignorant; what does SPF mean please.

[Ech0Sierra]

Sold Pending Funds. I sold it, didn't get the money yet.

[retired]

Thank you Ech0Sierra. There are so many internet acronyms out there; I just haven't learned all of them yet (probably won't either).

[ar15barrels]

Ok, I'm ignorant; what does SPF mean please.

Sun Protection Factor.
If it's SPF10, it reduces the harmful effects of the sun by a factor of 10.

[battleship]

Question to those who no the law,

I saw a colt python 6inch blue on the web site Gunsamerica for sale from an FFL dealer in California item number 976998118 going for $1000 in great shape only know box or paper work.

the caption says its ilegal for sale to public unless your a police officer, or your a buyer from another state.

Is this true or has he got the law mixed up,. because i just bought one threw a ffl dealer last week It was a third party transfer and being that colt dont make this gun no more, then that makes them all used. I would beleive all to be sold third party , so what is the difference in law if any between how i bought mine in California and how he thinks know one in this state over than a police officer can buy the one he has for sale. its all so confusing. .

I would ask him personnelly but i would have to pay more to that site to do so. please some one tell me the rules for python purchases in this state so if i ever find another i will no my wrights on the subject. thanks.

[ar15barrels]

I saw a colt python 6inch blue on the web site Gunsamerica for sale from an FFL dealer in California item number 976998118 going for $1000 in great shape only know box or paper work.

the caption says its ilegal for sale to public unless your a police officer, or your a buyer from another state.

Is this true or has he got the law mixed up,

That dealer has put that Python into his physical inventory rather than selling it on consignment.
If he were selling it on consignment, it COULD be sold in CA via private party transfer.
Since he just paid the seller for it and took ownership, he can not sell it wthin the state now.

If he had consigned it, you could have bought it and driven up there twice to do the private party transfer.

[battleship]

Thanks so much AR15 BARRELS,
though why he wouldnt of put it on cosignment and asked the original owner for a nominal fee for doing so, perhaps he got a great deal on it when he purchased it and figured he could make a greater profit? still it would of been nice to see it kept in this state and going to a Californianite.

[rivviepop]

though why he wouldnt of put it on cosignment and asked the original owner for a nominal fee for doing so, perhaps he got a great deal on it when he purchased it and figured he could make a greater profit? still it would of been nice to see it kept in this state and going to a Californianite.

It might be a legal reason - there's a little Charter Arms bullpup revolver sitting in my local shop that nobody can buy for the same reason (offlist, in the dealer inventory not consignment). So I asked - it turns out the previous owner sold it to them on a passport! So legally they cannot put it out for consignment/PPT, they had to buy it for inventory and wait on LEO (or other exemption) to buy it.

Sad, because it's $200, in good shape and I want it.

[ar15barrels]

why he wouldnt of put it on cosignment and asked the original owner for a nominal fee for doing so, perhaps he got a great deal on it when he purchased it and figured he could make a greater profit?

As a dealer, you always make more money when you BUY the gun than when you consign the gun.
Consignment is usually a 20% to 30% deal.
He probably gave the guy $500 in trade towards something else that the guy wanted and that's why he has it listed for $1000 which will sell quickly.
Maybe it was a widow's gun...

[ar15barrels]

there's a little Charter Arms bullpup revolver sitting in my local shop that nobody can buy for the same reason

Sad, because it's $200, in good shape and I want it.

You need to find a cop friend...

[rivviepop]

You need to find a cop friend...

yeah.. but soliciting is of course not allowed (I just don't happen to have LEO friends, no real reason). I'm happy to play by the rules and if it happens, it happens - but I'm not about to go looking for trouble. As much as I may not agree with some of our wonderful, insane CA laws I do try and keep on the right side of them.

[CALI-gula]

Thanks so much AR15 BARRELS,
though why he wouldnt of put it on cosignment and asked the original owner for a nominal fee for doing so, perhaps he got a great deal on it when he purchased it and figured he could make a greater profit? still it would of been nice to see it kept in this state and going to a Californianite.

Besides the bigger profit of buying direct on every-day guns, some dealers buy whole estate liquidations, government auctions (outside of CA) and some buy firearms from other gun dealer's going-out-of business sales. Some amy even buy them over the internet to sell again on the internet. There are many ways that CA dealers can acquire guns into their inventory that can then not be sold within CA.

However, while the profits and ease of sale are realized on the pedestrian guns, it's a shame they don't realize the profit to be had on rare, hard to find, no-longer made, or limited production guns by doing them as consignments. Then the bigger profit on such guns would be realized.

What hurts most are those dealers that refuse to do any kind of consignment deal at all, especially if it is a rare modern gun that would gladly attract a higher price to make up for the difference of their buy-out direct versus consignment, by selling it in CA.

For example, they'll buy a nice Colt Python direct for $500 and sell it for $850 on Auction Arms - $350 profit. However, they could have put it up for $1300 as a consignment in their shop, at a 30% commission (which seems steep, but the math prevails), fully knowing it will sell fast due to CA owners scrambling to get any Python available, and they would make $400 on the deal; $390 plus $10 from the consignment DROS profit.

Often the owner would have taken the consignment option, but these select dealers refuse. They are only facilitating the Brady Campaign and Legislature's anti-2nd Amendment drive to rid CA of handguns. There are a few local dealers that refuse to do consignment sales at all, but have enough clout to buy mass amounts of hard-to-find handguns from CA owners that walk into their store... only for that dealer to be shipping them out of state in the thousands each year, due to sales on Auction Arms to other states. Their lawyer has lumped consignments of (SB15) Non-Approved DOJ List Handgun sales with over-the-counter sales as banned, even though Lockyer previously issued legal opinion noting consignment sales are considered PPT sales, since the dealer never takes them into his inventory, and is only the custodian of the sale. This is their excuse - but it's really a way to increase turn-over without care for keeping gun collecting or the hobby alive in CA.

Soon, their most loyal customers won't go to them anymore, due to lack of interesting inventory - I don't, because I know there will be very few if any gems made after 1957 in their counters. Yet, I had been shopping nearly exclusively with them since the early 1990's, htting their store with purchases at least 2 days a week. But in the past 2 years - I think I've been in their store about 6 times maximum. And if they keep it up, their counters will contain nothing more than what a Turner's carries on a daily basis - so I may as well go to a Turners for the better price.

Do you know of whom I speak??

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