A few Desert Eagle Questions:

[Waingro]

Just wondering - is the DE the only hand gun that uses a rotating bolt? And someone told me it is the most powerful handgun (excluding revolves, 500S&W of course). Is this true?

[Guns R Tools]

I believe it is most powerful semi in production, unless you discount AR based pistols with other large calibers. (458socom, 50 beowulf etc.- wouldn't that be fun!).

[MedSpec65]

What is crocus cloth? and FP-10 and Gun Butter is what is suggested to lube for best performance and least wear? CLP to clean?

A crocus cloth is available from sewing stores. People use them to sharpen their sewing needles. It's basically a piece of denim that's been impregnated with jeweller's rouge. It will smooth the burrs and imperfections from contact points on firearms without removing any metal. I use CLP Breakfree once in a while if I need a quick lube and cleaning after running a lot of rounds thru my pistol at the range. It will get your gun running again if it gets gummed up and locks up or cycles slowly.
There are MANY excellent premium oils specifically designed for firearms. I have settled on Gun Butter and FP-10 after using a few. Just my opinion.

[ohsmily]

Breakfree is OK I guess, but it comes in a spray can and will leave a fine oily coat all over your pistol. I prefer the needle applicator on the Gun Butter container to apply the stuff exactly where I want it. It's hard to keep Breakfree from building up inside your grips, for instance. You don't need dirt and grime being attracted to large internal areas of your pistol. I have a Magnum Research Baby Eagle in .40. I'm convinced the internal slide design makes it one of the most accurate pistols I own. I keep those slide rails polished with a crocus cloth from time to time and use premium gun oil sparingly. FP-10 is good enough and cheaper than Gun Butter.

Uh, Breakfree comes in MANY different types of containers. The aerosol can is one. There are also tiny applicator bottles, pump spray bottles, I even bought an entire GALLON of the stuff (I then put it into a small applicator bottle that I continue to refill).

I do not use CLP for lubricant on my higher end guns, especially on the heavy wear points. I either use tetra oil or tetra grease in some of the really heavy wear points.

And there are many handguns out there more powerful than the Desert Eagle. Many single shots and many revolvers, not just the 500SW. It is, as another poster mentioned, the most powerful semi-auto. However, the 50AE doesn't even come close to some of the really nasty, HEAVY caliber rounds out there for some revolvers and single shots.

[.50DE]

CLP can be used on a few pivot point on the DE, and spings. Forget the slide and frame rails. Use a weapons grease. I use MD Labs XF-7. I use it on the slide and the bolt. Using CLP or oil there just dosent work to well, it tends to get thrown off. I use Eezox for a protectant. I had break Free actaully discolor the black oxide finish *shrug* Maybe it was the teflon, I dont really know. But I had to soak the slide in M pro 7 for a few hours to get rid of the problem. Any questions at all just shoot me a pm

[Waingro]

CLP can be used on a few pivot point on the DE, and spings. Forget the slide and frame rails. Use a weapons grease. I use MD Labs XF-7. I use it on the slide and the bolt. Using CLP or oil there just dosent work to well, it tends to get thrown off. I use Eezox for a protectant. I had break Free actaully discolor the black oxide finish *shrug* Maybe it was the teflon, I dont really know. But I had to soak the slide in M pro 7 for a few hours to get rid of the problem. Any questions at all just shoot me a pm

Thanks a lot - you should be hearing from me soon when I get my DE and take it apart.

[cadurand]

CLP can be used on a few pivot point on the DE, and spings. Forget the slide and frame rails. Use a weapons grease. I use MD Labs XF-7. I use it on the slide and the bolt. Using CLP or oil there just dosent work to well, it tends to get thrown off. I use Eezox for a protectant. I had break Free actaully discolor the black oxide finish *shrug* Maybe it was the teflon, I dont really know. But I had to soak the slide in M pro 7 for a few hours to get rid of the problem. Any questions at all just shoot me a pm

If you are getting splattered by CLP on your Desert Eagle then YOU ARE USING TOO MUCH CLP.

[Army]

Why are you using a crocus cloth on the rails? You are essentially sanding them down....STOP IT!!

The rails will take a burnish from the steel slide and frame rubbing one another...that's a good thing. Anything you do to remove the burnish, is accelerating the wear.

Keep it all lightly lubed, and forget grinding off any more metal!

[.50DE]

If you are getting splattered by CLP on your Desert Eagle then YOU ARE USING TOO MUCH CLP.

true, but truth be told your much better with grease on the slide areas

[Waingro]

Why are you using a crocus cloth on the rails? You are essentially sanding them down....STOP IT!!

The rails will take a burnish from the steel slide and frame rubbing one another...that's a good thing. Anything you do to remove the burnish, is accelerating the wear.

Keep it all lightly lubed, and forget grinding off any more metal!

When I clean my glock I use my wife's make up pads. They can be purchased at the local drug store for around $2.00 for 20. They are very absorbent and come in triangle and circle shapes. A dab of CLP on there and my Glock is spotless. Sometimes I use two if I know I will not be going to the range in a while.

So if Breakfree CLP is harsh on the finish what should I use to clean, and protect? FP-10/Gun Butter for lubing - got that part. Keep in mind this is just the flat black model. Even though I am buying it off my buddy, he would get pretty mad if he saw the gun he sold me all torn up, that would be very disrespectful towards him. Plus I take care of all my stuff very well.

[Army]

Break Free should not do any harm to the finish.

[Sirlight]

I haven't seen this said in this post yet. The Hoppe's #9 is an actual product line for Hoppe's. This also includes a Lubricating Oil in a little orange bottle. I have it sitting here next to me. You can use this for lubrication as it is easy to find all over the place. I lube all my guns before being stored ( usually a few weeks before I shoot them again. ) Then I double check and relube everything before I go to the range.

Its been said before but ill say it again. The powder solvent is not a lubricant. The lubricating oil is.

[DrjonesUSA]

Just wondering - is the DE the only hand gun that uses a rotating bolt? And someone told me it is the most powerful handgun (excluding revolves, 500S&W of course). Is this true?

Yes, it is the only semi-auto pistol that is gas-operated with a rotating bolt and it is the most powerful production (not some strange one-off custom) semi-auto pistol on the market, at least the .50 AE is.

[jdberger]

Originally Posted by Waingro
Just wondering - is the DE the only hand gun that uses a rotating bolt? And someone told me it is the most powerful handgun (excluding revolves, 500S&W of course). Is this true?

Yes, it is the only semi-auto pistol that is gas-operated with a rotating bolt and it is the most powerful production (not some strange one-off custom) semi-auto pistol on the market, at least the .50 AE is.

No and No.



And there are lots of variants out there....

[DrjonesUSA]

No and No.



And there are lots of variants out there....

Not sure that really counts as the AR-15 was originally designed as a rifle.