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  • #16
    therza2071
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 165

    All modern guns are safe. In such a sue happy society, they have to be.

    He's full of ****, is basically what I'm getting at.
    RON PAUL 2012

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    • #17
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44661

      Originally posted by Bakerloo
      Safe handguns are on the list.
      Unsafe handguns are not on the list.
      That was easy.
      Not quite - according to the state,
      Unsafe handguns are not on the list

      NOT-unsafe handguns are on the list
      Really; the state doesn't claim that the guns on the list are safe.
      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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      • #18
        Noah3683
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2256

        Originally posted by bohoki
        depends on what you mean my safe

        there are many cases of glocks blowing up with factory ammo
        There are many cases of all types of guns blowing up with factory ammo. Just because it's factory ammo doesn't mean there isn't ever problems with it
        Originally posted by Neil McCauley
        Are you actually suppost to "taste" wood?
        Originally posted by Neil McCauley
        Just wish I knew what wood in your meat is suppost to taste like.

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        • #19
          FieldsofFire
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1878

          Not all 1911's are quality. External thumb safety shouldn't have anything to do with it, it can be accidentally switched off and you're left with very short, sometimes very light, trigger. Not sure why he would think a Sig or 1911 is "safer" than say a Glock or an XD based on safety devices built into the gun...

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          • #20
            mixwell
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 213

            In my opinion that's pretty biased to say a firearm is safer based on external safety. IMO all firearms are safe if you're not stupid enough to ignore the basic rules of firearm safety.. A Glock is just as safe as a 1911 or X gun as long as you're not an idiot and know how to properly handle a firearm. Dude sounds like an oldschool guy and to be bias against newer firearms (from what you express) is just ignorant.. The best safety IMO is to keep your Fking finger off the trigger

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            • #21
              drdarkness
              Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 446

              Any gun in my hand is safe in over 40yrs of shooting I have never hurt myself or anyone else,doesn't get much safer than that. Guns are only as safe or dangerous as it's handler.

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              • #22
                Aznatama
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 109

                discussing which pistol is the safest is like comparing a-holes, everyone has one. No pistol that I know of will fire w/o user interaction, whether it be in the user's hands, or loose in the user's rucksack (bad idea) while in a condition other than 4.
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                • #23
                  Flintlock Tom
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3353

                  I believe that whenever someone's mouth is moving, apart from eating or kissing, whatever is coming out is an opinion.
                  Now, here's some "Old-Guy Wisdom": "I treat a man's opinion like I treat his dog; I can admire it without being expected to take it home with me."
                  "Everyone must determine for themselves what level of tyranny they are willing to tolerate.
                  I let my CA residency expire in 2015."

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                  • #24
                    eifersucht
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 69

                    Personally I feel safer with a handgun that has a very deliberate trigger pull. I have a 1911 with a very light & short trigger pull (probably around 2 lbs), and a glock 19 with a trigger pull of around 4lbs. Even though the 1911 has an external safety, I feel much more comfortable with the Glock. The 1911 is amazing to shoot, but if I had to carry something, I'd prefer the Glock or a DA/SA type set up like the Sig.

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                    • #25
                      monk
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 4454

                      Originally posted by Flintlock Tom
                      I believe that whenever someone's mouth is moving, apart from eating or kissing, whatever is coming out is an opinion.
                      Now, here's some "Old-Guy Wisdom": "I treat a man's opinion like I treat his dog; I can admire it without being expected to take it home with me."

                      2+2 = 4 wouldn't be an opinion though.


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                      A tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny.

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                      • #26
                        Lifeon2whls
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1751

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                        • #27
                          ap3572001
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 6039

                          Taked to another LE instructor/range master on this subject.

                          Safe handgun......

                          The questions to ask would be : SAFE in which way?Less likely to have an accidental discharge? Safe because its reliable ? Safe because it will not fire if dropped? Safe (EASY and SIMPLE) to use for a novice? Easy to tell if its loaded?

                          I do know for a fact (not just opinion) that a S&W 4" DA ONLY 38/357 revolver , is safer than a "hair trigger" series 70 1911 45ACP for a novice to use.

                          My point is that the ROSTER has nothing to do with SAFETY. IMHO.

                          BUT I must say that SOME handguns are safer than others.

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                          • #28
                            Lead Waster
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 16650

                            Originally posted by Bakerloo
                            Safe handguns are on the list.
                            Unsafe handguns are not on the list.
                            That was easy.
                            Well, there is a bit of truth to that actually. To be on the roster, the gun has to pass some drop tests and stuff.

                            Sure there is dumb stuff on there too, like the loaded chamber indicator and magazine disconnect. But that's mostly to make the gun safer for unsafe people.

                            But, as we all know by now, you can still shoot yourself in the leg with any gun just by bypassing the safety rules.

                            But then ... that's (in theory) why you have to pass the Handgun Safety test, and you have to show the FFL your safe handling skills.
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                            • #29
                              milotrain
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 4301

                              Single action revolver is safe.

                              Instructor has his own opinions, you should develop yours.
                              weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                              frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                              • #30
                                ap3572001
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 6039

                                Safe how????

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