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  • disturbed1
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 525

    Id for HSC

    hello members, I want my girl to get an HSC card but she doesnt have a driver license or an ID. She has a passport which has a picture ID. She tried taking the test but the gun shop would not accept her passport as a type of ID. Is there anyway around this? Or does she have to go to the DMV and get an ID and wait about a month for that thing to come in?
    Gun control is NOT missing.
  • #2
    DVSmith
    Cantankerous old coot
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2007
    • 3702

    I have never had anyone not have a DL/CAID before, but from the manual:

    Applicants must be over 18 years of age and are required to present clear evidence of identity and age by presenting a California Driver’s License or California Department of Motor Vehicles Identification Card.
    If the applicant is successful in passing the HSC test, you are required to issue an HSC at that
    time. On the front of the HSC you must clearly print the recipient’s last name, first name,
    middle initial, California driver’s license or I.D. card number, date of birth, date of issuance, and
    date of expiration (5 years from issuance). The recipient must sign the front of the HSC. On the
    back of the HSC, you must provide your name or business name, your DOJ Certified Instructor
    number and your California Firearms Dealer (CFD) number, if applicable, and your signature.
    Seems odd you could not accept any government issued picture ID.

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    • #3
      teflondog
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 4011

      Regardless of HSC, I think she should get a CA ID. It helps avoid any hassle in case you ever have to identify yourself to an officer or if you're trying to get into a club.
      Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
      Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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      • #4
        disturbed1
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 525

        Well, she wants to get a drivers license but because of our mixed schedules, its hard to get the time to her a drivers permit, then take the driving test. So, she doesnt wanna pay for an id when she is gonna pay for a DL anyways. She just turned 21 and she worked as a gogo and never had the problem with identification. All clubs, bars, LEO's, etc accept the passport as identification. The loooooong wait in the lines at the DMV is what is the PITA especially since her and I have a baby that is 1.5 yo and likes to wonder around. Little kids have little patience.
        Gun control is NOT missing.

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        • #5
          Roach_Infinity
          Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 215

          The tone of this OP raises the question, Why do you want your girl to "get an HSC" the only purpose of the HSC is to allow you to "purchase a handgun in the State of California."

          Your tone / wording seems to suggest that she is not in the market for a handgun? (Because she would HAVE to have a CID or CDL in order to obtain one anyway.)

          The HSC program, in my opinion, is in NO WAY a good training or safety program for new shooters. It does not substitute for a trained instructor in any way shape or form. If you are thinking along those lines I urge you to stop, and consider professional help if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself!

          Not trying to set a negative tone, I know it comes off that way, but HSC is a piece of **** crapped out by anti-gun California. It is devoid of all worth.

          -Eric

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          • #6
            teflondog
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 4011

            Originally posted by Roach_Infinity
            The tone of this OP raises the question, Why do you want your girl to "get an HSC" the only purpose of the HSC is to allow you to "purchase a handgun in the State of California."

            Your tone / wording seems to suggest that she is not in the market for a handgun? (Because she would HAVE to have a CID or CDL in order to obtain one anyway.)

            The HSC program, in my opinion, is in NO WAY a good training or safety program for new shooters. It does not substitute for a trained instructor in any way shape or form. If you are thinking along those lines I urge you to stop, and consider professional help if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself!

            Not trying to set a negative tone, I know it comes off that way, but HSC is a piece of **** crapped out by anti-gun California. It is devoid of all worth.

            -Eric
            If she has an HSC, he can legally lend a handgun to her. I wanted my gf to get an HSC in case she wanted to borrow any of my guns.
            Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
            Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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            • #7
              disturbed1
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 525

              Lol no, she has a kimber 1911 custom TLE II on layaway. So, she is gonna a gun which is why she trying to do this in a rapid way and why she doesnt want to wait to go get a CA ID or CA DL. Its a long and tedious process. She cant start the DROS without the HSC. That is why I wanted to know if she can get away with a passport at some other gun shop. The passport has an identification number on it. And in no way is she trying to use the HSC crap as a form of safety training. I told her to invest in some quality training for proper handgun handling. I also hope she can get an LTC because of where she works and the danger of her being there. There are some security gaurds their that have a weapon and a LTC. Right now she is in the process of getting a taser.
              Gun control is NOT missing.

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              • #8
                134k
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 24

                i don't see what the big deal is..a CA DMV id is only $10. if you can afford to buy a gun, then you can afford a $10 id card. just my two cents.

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                • #9
                  hyperion.excal
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1334

                  Originally posted by 134k
                  i don't see what the big deal is..a CA DMV id is only $10. if you can afford to buy a gun, then you can afford a $10 id card. just my two cents.
                  Its actually $26

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                  • #10
                    Don Edmondson
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 377

                    Originally posted by disturbed1
                    Well, she wants to get a drivers license but because of our mixed schedules, its hard to get the time to her a drivers permit, then take the driving test. So, she doesnt wanna pay for an id when she is gonna pay for a DL anyways. She just turned 21 and she worked as a gogo and never had the problem with identification. All clubs, bars, LEO's, etc accept the passport as identification. The loooooong wait in the lines at the DMV is what is the PITA especially since her and I have a baby that is 1.5 yo and likes to wonder around. Little kids have little patience.
                    I am here tempoary monday I went to dmv and got a Cal. ID card got in the mail 2 day's later Don

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                    • #11
                      jchappies
                      Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 159

                      Make an appointment at the DMV so you don't have to wait
                      Get her DL and be done with it.
                      sigpicVarious Hand guns,shotguns and rifles

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                      • #12
                        littlejake
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 2168

                        Originally posted by disturbed1
                        Lol no, she has a kimber 1911 custom TLE II on layaway. So, she is gonna a gun which is why she trying to do this in a rapid way and why she doesnt want to wait to go get a CA ID or CA DL. Its a long and tedious process. She cant start the DROS without the HSC. That is why I wanted to know if she can get away with a passport at some other gun shop. The passport has an identification number on it. And in no way is she trying to use the HSC crap as a form of safety training. I told her to invest in some quality training for proper handgun handling. I also hope she can get an LTC because of where she works and the danger of her being there. There are some security gaurds their that have a weapon and a LTC. Right now she is in the process of getting a taser.
                        She cannot start a DROS without a CA DL or ID -- I'm surprised any dealer would permit anyone to start a layaway without a CA DL or ID. There is no address on a passport -- it's worthless in the process of buying a gun.

                        BTW -- "disturbed one" -- if you wish to be taken seriously on the forums, why don't you ask the moderators to permit you to change your "handle" -- I know it was suggested in another thread.
                        Life Member NRA and 2A Foundation.
                        My posts are my own opinions and do not reflect those of any organization I am a member of.
                        Nothing I post should be construed as legal advice; if you need legal advice, see a lawyer.

                        "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                        William Pitt (1759-1806)

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                        • #13
                          134k
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 24

                          Originally posted by hyperion.excal
                          Its actually $26
                          $10..$26 AND your point is? if you have to cry over a fee that small, you shouldn't be buying a gun that in essence carries multiple fees of it's own just to buy.

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                          • #14
                            disturbed1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 525

                            Handle? Disturbed1 is a screen i chose a long while back when I was into that band. Since I am a member on alot of forums and dont want to change that screen name because its easy to remember and the password has keys in that name. So, on forth from that. We are heading to the DMV anyways tomorrow to get her a CA ID. I just wanted to know if there was a way around that. I should have put on a flame suit before I asked the question I guess. It was a simple question, lol. Thank you Don for your useful information. IDs are about 25 bucks not ten. The money was not the problem by the way. It was the time that made it hard. I have told her numerous times she needs to take the damn DL test since we first met she always puts it off from fear she would fail the written portion.
                            Gun control is NOT missing.

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                            • #15
                              Don Edmondson
                              Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 377

                              Originally posted by disturbed1
                              Handle? Disturbed1 is a screen i chose a long while back when I was into that band. Since I am a member on alot of forums and dont want to change that screen name because its easy to remember and the password has keys in that name. So, on forth from that. We are heading to the DMV anyways tomorrow to get her a CA ID. I just wanted to know if there was a way around that. I should have put on a flame suit before I asked the question I guess. It was a simple question, lol. Thank you Don for your useful information. IDs are about 25 bucks not ten. The money was not the problem by the way. It was the time that made it hard. I have told her numerous times she needs to take the damn DL test since we first met she always puts it off from fear she would fail the written portion.
                              Mine was free because I am OLD. yes make a app. made the app. friday.for monday was in at 8am out at 826am Don

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