glock 20vs 357 magnum

[perfetto]

I want to buy a new gun. But can't decide between a glock 20sf or a seven or eight shot 357 mag. From what I have read and seen 357 ammo puts out around 450lbs to 688+lbs. The ten mill puts out 480lbs to 688+ hand loads can be hotter. I don't want one sided comments from glock haters. I love my glock 23 it goes bang every time. I also have a blast shooting my Dan Wesson 44 mag revolver. I think357 is cheaper to shoot and not such a specialty load as 10 mill auto.I bet some will say 357 can move at 1400-1600-fps but only with light bullets that lose their punch quickly. I'm no expert so if I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time.which would you choose for a hunting sidearm.glock 20 or s&w 686

[Peter W Bush]

357 magnum is more versitle. I'd get (and have gotten) the 357 magnum

[stix213]

I own a Glock 29 10mm and a 686, and love them both.

Some things to consider:

* 10MM is hard to impossible to find locally, while .357mag is fairly easy
* 686 is a nice looking gun, and would be a shame to put a big scratch in it out in the woods, while who cares if your ugly Glock gets a bit of wear
* 686 you can practice using cheap .38sp rounds, so a big plus if you plan on shooting it a lot
* Glock 20 fully loaded is still probably lighter weight than a 686 empty I'm guessing

[dexter9659]

I am a huge 10mm fan, but if you are looking for a do everything round, I would go with the N-frame or the L-frame 357. You will be able to shoot 38s and 357.

I used to carry my G20sf hunting in bear country, now I just carry my 44 mag model 329pd. My $.02

[Oceanbob]

Actually the 10MM round is the most versatile.

Especially in the heavier weights where knock-down power counts.

Being .40 caliber the amount of various bullet shapes and weights is astounding.

The round can be loaded to .40 speeds for plinking (and with the same power and more comfort because the Glock 20SF/29SF is more comfortable in the hand) or loading a hunting round like Bullalo Bore you're in .41 magnum territory.

A .357 magnum (I own several) has about 50% more kick than a Glock platform; mainly for two reasons: 1. No slide to absorb the recoil 2. The pistol rocks back and UP with each shot. Really not a fun gun to shoot with hot .357 pills.

The GLOCK has a hefty slide to absorb those 10MM rounds; the polymer is also a bit flexible and absorbs much of the recoil. I can shoot a GLOCK 20SF all day long without issues. A .357 magnum will wear my wrist down after about 50 rounds....

Have the ability to run 15 round preban mags or rebuild kits for use out of State, the GLOCK wins in absolute firepower. Being much lighter, the GLOCK is not a burden to carry. Even will full magazines.

The 10MM round has more energy and speed at 100 yards than a .45 Auto does at the muzzle. It is a car-stopper, hard hitting with extremely rapid power. Nothing can touch a GLOCK 20SF as a get-home-back-woods-take-care-of-business weapon. And the weapon is less expensive than a stainless .357 smith. Not as classy, but I prefer a work-every-time auto-pistol.

Another advantage to the GLOCK 29SF/20SF is the ability to change calibers with a barrel change. I can run:

1. .357 SIG with the same magazines

2. .40 Caliber with the same magazines

3. 9X25 with the same magazines.

4. AA advantage arms .22 conversion with a slide and mag change.

5. .45 Auto Glock 21 Top End with a Magazine change. Same exact bottom.

Also you can use a 6 inch barrel for hunting. (Glock longslide)

I reload .357 and 10MM. So ammo costs are not important or valid.

You can also turn your GLOCK 20 into a carbine. Something that I haven't tryed yet but plan too later this year.

For me the perfect backpack travel gun is the GLOCK 29SF. You can even go swimming with it. I wouldn't do that with a Stainless Smith....

There is an interesting thread on GLOCK TALK 10 Ring about "The Perfect Gun"

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1395480

My feelings exactly...!



Be well, Bob

[ArmyMedicMoose]

41 mag power in a semi auto with 10 rounds

[matt88m]

I own a g20c which I usually run with a 6" LWD barrel for my cast reloads and a Ruger GP 100 6" .357. Love 'em both, but if it had to be just one the G20 stays. I am more accurate with the 10mm. The slide soaks up much of the recoil and I can just shoot it more quickly, accurately. It is the perfect pack gun also if you are into that sort of thing. I usually throw in with my advantage arms 22 LR conversion kit when I backpack.
I enjoy the unique cartridge also. Not many people have a 10mm, some have never heard of it.

[Tarn_Helm]

Go Glock.

I want to buy a new gun. But can't decide between a glock 20sf or a seven or eight shot 357 mag. From what I have read and seen 357 ammo puts out around 450lbs to 688+lbs. The ten mill puts out 480lbs to 688+ hand loads can be hotter. I don't want one sided comments from glock haters. I love my glock 23 it goes bang every time. I also have a blast shooting my Dan Wesson 44 mag revolver. I think357 is cheaper to shoot and not such a specialty load as 10 mill auto.I bet some will say 357 can move at 1400-1600-fps but only with light bullets that lose their punch quickly. I'm no expert so if I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time.which would you choose for a hunting sidearm.glock 20 or s&w 686

Glock 20

You have more rounds, more effective rounds, and faster reloading.

[scarville]

I bet some will say 357 can move at 1400-1600-fps but only with light bullets that lose their punch quickly. I'm no expert so if I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time.which would you choose for a hunting sidearm.glock 20 or s&w 686

My 686+ w/6" bbl spits out out Federal 158 JSP at a little over 1400 fps. That's not unusual for high end 357 loads and the recoil is enough for most manly men. You don't say what you consider "light" so 158 gr may be too small a bullet for you.

[Fishslayer]

Obvious answer is obvious.

You need both.

To answer your question (sorta) I can't think of anything the 10mm or .357 would do that your .44 Magnum can't as far as hunting goes.

[m98]

You want an all out fire power handgun at an affordable price =g20 wins

You want flashy bling bling more expensive wheelgun that weighs a ton but only fires 2 calibers and limited rds=357 mag

[NytWolf]

As a hunting sidearm, definitely the G20SF.

[Kodachrome]

A 357 you can always shoot 38 specials thru.
I plan on getting a 10mm barrel for my G21. Factory ammo harder to find.
Start reloading? I have saved every bit of reloadable brass that I have every bought.
Good Luck

[maschronic]

i'm in lines with OceanBob. i own a G20, G29, and 357 mag. i love my 357, but would use the G20/29 in the back country any day and twice on sundays. the recoil isn't that bad on the G20. i will say that i am more accurite on the 357 than the G20. only because i have put a lot of rounds thru her. even then, i would carry the G20 over the 357. i'm talking 3" groupings at 25 yards with the 357 and 4-5" groupings with the G20. i reload if that makes it any different.

hope that helps.

[Sturnovik]

357 magnum is more versitle. I'd get (and have gotten) the 357 magnum

I'd agree, and I dont mind 10mm at all. Depending on the barrel length its a very versatile gun. (357).