Sigma 40 value?

[drifter2be]

I dont know about you, but most people would rather spend a little bit more to get a new weapon. For me, it would have to be a significant price difference to convince me. When buying used you're taking the chance on somone elses care of the weapon, maintenance and honesty of its reliable function. With a new weapon, you don't.

The discount on used needs to be sweet enough to make people take that gamble.

If I had the choice between new at 275 vs used at 220, its not even a second thought. New without hesitation.

Would have to be 200 to even consider looking and even better to overlook some small signs of wear.

I'm just being honest.

I would believe that if I wasn't constantly seeing guns selling in the classified section for $25-50 under new cost with a few hundred to one thousand rounds through them. Gotta remember that if he is asking $250 and the buyer has to pay $35 for transfer versus $300 average new price, plus tax plus $25 DROS that makes his gun over $65 cheaper than a new one.

[Mossy Man]

I would believe that if I wasn't constantly seeing guns selling in the classified section for $25-50 under new cost with a few hundred to one thousand rounds through them. Gotta remember that if he is asking $250 and the buyer has to pay $35 for transfer versus $300 average new price, plus tax plus $25 DROS that makes his gun over $65 cheaper than a new one.

I quoted 275 new and that makes his @250 only $37 less. But my post was to give a point of reference.

Maybe I don't represent all consumers but I do represent me. So for me, used needs to be worth my while. If I can get something new and warrantied for 275, i would pay no more than 200 used with expectation of some wear.

[!@#$]

FWIW it has a lifetime warranty for any owner not just the original. s&w will also pay shipping both ways if there was a problem.

for $200 you are looking at getting a hi-point OTD.

with 3 mags there is no way i would take less than $250. these are solid pistols with great ergos. the only legit complaint is the heavy long trigger pull.

if you can shoot a DA revolver you can shoot a sigma. if you can't shoot either you just flat out can't shoot.

[Mossy Man]

Would also have to take into consideration if the mags are factory or aftermarket to include into deal.

[!@#$]

Would also have to take into consideration if the mags are factory or aftermarket to include into deal.

i'm pretty sure there are no aftermarket sigma mags.

[Steve1968LS2]

And he asked for the value of the weapon. It is EXTREMELY helpful to know how much it would cost new when attempting to sell the same item used.

Obviously when they are 275 new it would be folly to attempt to sell used for the same price.

$275 at some joint north of San Fran? lol

They are $299 most places.. and the warranty is for life and transferable.

Like I said.. it would sell eventually at $250 and very fast at $200 .. heck, I would buy it at $200 and I don't even need it.

And my friend is reality even if you personally wouldn't buy it.

[Icypu]

I wouldn't buy one for $200. But if I had to sell one i'd expect at least $220. Like others have said it has a bad trigger pull, and a weapon of necessity rather than pleasure.

[drifter2be]

I quoted 275 new and that makes his @250 only $37 less. But my post was to give a point of reference.

Maybe I don't represent all consumers but I do represent me. So for me, used needs to be worth my while. If I can get something new and warrantied for 275, i would pay no more than 200 used with expectation of some wear.

Yeah, thats what YOU quoted, lowest I have ever seen one priced is $300 on sale at turners, and seen them priced as high as $360 at some stores, hence I took the $300 value since it is a low-middle of the road value for a new sigma.

Like I said, I have seen it happen a lot on the for sale section, so maybe you are a lot more picky than the majority of buyers on this website, and your opinion would not be a good reason for this guy to price his gun lower than what they are selling for right now.

In fact there are two that I have seen in there recently priced near or above the $250 mark. Besides, I'm not sure with S&W but companies like Springfield will honor the lifetime warranty to a second owner if its not a user-error related problem. So there is a chance that you will still have some kind of "warranty" on the weapon, its all a matter of checking with the company.

BTW, his also has extras, or did you not read that. It may just be my opinion, but in MY opinion $250 is a fair price for a gun with a round count that isnt very high, only a year old, and comes with an extra magazine and a grip.

So in reality, thats another $25 magazine and $15 grip, not to mention what the front sight cost him. By my estimate that makes it a $105 cheaper or $77 by your pricing, not counting the cost of the front sight.



If the OP was closer I would buy it at the $250 price range just to have laying around in case I ever had to send my Springfield in for repairs or other work.

[Mossy Man]

Hey, lets just be clear here. He asked a question and i gave an answer. I'm sorry if you dont like it, I wasnt being rude, and I did forget about the mags.

The reason I am like this is because I bought a used s&w 22a at a LGS for $189 only to my dismay to see them sold for $200 at wild sports. If i had known i would have got the new one.

They also have basic ruger 10 22s for $199, sr9cs for $399, and sign p2022s for $399.

They have great deals on guns all the time.

[DNA]

Not to be the one beating a dead horse but... (check the links attached for the retail prices, oh and I even give you the benefit of free shipping).

$275 (sigma) + $34 (extra mag) + $10 (rubber grip) + $25 (tax) + $25 (DROS) = $369

Which is still $84 more than if someone is buying it used at the $250 price (+$35 DROS). $84 is a 30% difference in price between new and used. And hey, chances are, if you are shopping for a used Sigma, budget may honestly be an issue. Is a 30% premium worth it when it literally makes no difference except state of mind of buying new over used? Especially when you need to find a gun to fit a budget? I don't think so.

And just for fun, the breakdown for a SR9C and P2022. Both new are $399 + tax ($30.92 assuming a 7.75% tax rate) + DROS ($25) = $454.92 OTD
Both are routinely found for $350 in the market place + $35 (for DROS) = $385 OTD used.
Which is a $69.92 premium for buying new over a used pistol. So for the privaledge of buying new over used, you pay a 18% premium (18.16% premium). Now if we apply that premium to the Sigma, the used price if it was priced according to the value we assigned to the SR9C or P2022 would be around $312.30

Let's get even more generous and say you find a great deal on the used SR9C and the P2022 at $300 used + $35 for DROS. It's still a 26% premium that you end up paying for the new over used. So being that our new over used Sigma's price premium is even greater than that. We can logically make the assumption that we're getting a better deal buying used sigmas than we are buying used SR9Cs and P2022s.

Been buying and selling via Calguns for well over 10 years. I personally think $250 is a fair price for what the sigma is. The Sigma is a very solid budget conscious pistol. Ugly trigger pull, but very functional and has very very few peers in it's price range (used Ruger P95). But hey, if it's not a deal you can live with, oh well. There's a reason there was a no Thread crapping rule in the market place, caveat emptor (buyer beware, which means as a buyer, you are responsible for knowing the market price, no sour grapes when you figure out you let yourself pay more than you needed).

Dan

[brianm767]

It all depends on what it sells for in your area! it doesnt matter if Wild Sports in the Sacto area has it for $279, or if Turnes in LA has it even cheaper, if it cost over $300 in your area, then $250-$275 might be a fair price. I live in Fresno and just about all guns are higher than teh metro area folks can get it for.

I see your in the Central Valley, Where abouts? doubt if too many people in Visalia or Fresno are going to drive to LA or Sac to buy a gun for $40 bucks less then it sells for locally, the gas alone is is going to add $100 to the price, and also sales tax.

There are tons of people out there looking for an enexpensive first gun, not every one can afford a Glock or M&P or ??? bottom line, guns just cost more in the central valley then the large Metro areas, and certain ones, such as SSE pistols cost less.

List it on backpage.com for $275-$300 OBO, if your in the Fresno area, you'll probably get it.

[c-wick]

I recently sold mine damn near brand new for 260. had about 200 rnds through it