Which handgun do you think is the most durable/torture proof?

[fullspeed1]

for a gun that's been shot at, here is a battle damaged 1911


full story here:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1004099&page=1

this is why I voted for 1911

can other guns take it? I have no idea, but I know a 1911 can

no gun can survive being shot at. But, can another pistol survive a sniper shot like this Colt 1911 did?

I'm confused, What?

[fullspeed1]

What are you trying to prove here? That 1911 couldn't be shot in that condition.

Exactly.

[PRCABR4Christ]

Lol I doubt that any guns would survive in extremely hot condition, I.E. fire.

how extreme are we talking....bluing tanks should run around 180-200 degrees, I doubt a Glock frame would withstand that for more than a few minutes

[fullspeed1]

the Glock link is interesting... but without video's I dont buy it.....

i would say 1911 or sig sauer, i dont care who you are plastic does not last forever...

I am gonna go out on a limb and say that steel will most likely oxidize slowly and breakdown, Long before high strength polymer will. Just my 2 pennies.

[cc56]

I have shot the crap out of my USP. never failed. I was shooting my buddies glock 22 and had a failure or 2. So from that stand point I Have to go with USP. My other go to is the beretta 92, the military beats the hell out of them and they keep going (P85 goes with 92FS/M9). From reputation alone I guess glock as #3 but they have their problems too.

[scarville]

Lol I doubt that any guns would survive in extremely hot condition, I.E. fire.

Fire is not a friend to any gun

The nylon 6 in a Glock frame melts at 428F. Most steels begin tempering at around 500F (some as low as 300F) so a polymer frame would melt well before the steel parts were significantly weakened.

BTW, here are some pretty tough Browning Machine Guns: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15652440

[23 Blast]

Just wondering - the polymer in polymer-framed handguns isn't your everyday tupperware plastic. How much flame / how many degrees could it stand before it melted? If you held a Bic lighter under the frame, would it melt? Just curious. Pretty sure you could do that to a steel-framed gun (put a cigarette lighter under it) and not seriously damage anything other than the finish.

[23 Blast]

Well - the 1911 is an all-steel gun. WHy wouldn't a BHP, CZ, or heck, a S&W semiauto be able to similarly handle getting hit like that rusted up 1911?

[Fot]

Hi point, I saw this video on the interwebs beating the crap out of this gun..

[Sturnovik]

I've never seen a finish like glocks tennifer last as long or as much abuse. I'd lean toward glock easily for poly market, but if its steel/alloy I'd lean Beretta/Sig/BHP/1911 and the Smith 3rd gens.

[squee116]

I don't know about empirical data, but it's simply had a longer service life and is still lauded as the go-to, never break, gun. At least the gen3s

[Shenaniguns]

the Glock link is interesting... but without video's I dont buy it.....

i would say 1911 or sig sauer, i dont care who you are plastic does not last forever...

Maybe they are not hosted on that page anymore, but there are videos of this test. It's legit

[zfields]

Maybe they are not hosted on that page anymore, but there are videos of this test. It's legit

The video is pretty impressive actually.

[Lead Waster]

this is why I voted for 1911

can other guns take it? I have no idea, but I know a 1911 can

This makes no sense. You can shoot anything and it will have a big gaping hole in it. I mean, what do you mean "take it"? That gun is ruined! I'm pretty sure you can shoot and wreck most pistols in the slide/barrel and get a similar effect. In fact that Glock 21 torture test nut SHOT his Glock 21 in the slide and it STILL FIRED, it wasn't damaged like the 1911 in your picture.

Granted, he shot it with a .22 at 30 yards and that 1911 was hit with a rifle, round, but here are pics (hotlinked, sorry!)



And yes, had he hit the frame, it probably would have shattered, but who knows.

[CSACANNONEER]

This makes no sense. You can shoot anything and it will have a big gaping hole in it. I mean, what do you mean "take it"? That gun is ruined! I'm pretty sure you can shoot and wreck most pistols in the slide/barrel and get a similar effect. In fact that Glock 21 torture test nut SHOT his Glock 21 in the slide and it STILL FIRED, it wasn't damaged like the 1911 in your picture.

Granted, he shot it with a .22 at 30 yards and that 1911 was hit with a rifle, round, but here are pics (hotlinked, sorry!)



And yes, had he hit the frame, it probably would have shattered, but who knows.

A 40 grain lead bullet from a .22lr isn't going to hurt a 1911 either. Now, if some glock fanboy is willing to provide me their gun, I'll shoot it with my rifle at 500 yards. If it still works, I'll buy you a brand new Glock. If it doesn't, you buy me a brand new Kimber 1911. Now we'll see if any of the glock crowd is dumb enough to "put up" if not, it's time to "shut up".

Lead Waster, this challenge was not dirrected at you. I'm just feeding off your post and pictures.