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  • #31
    Neptune
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1165

    A gun is just like any other tool in my opinion. More elegant, beautiful, and personal perhaps, but a tool nonetheless, and made to function as a tool. Value has no meaning to me beyond the initial purchase. After that, the tool is made to operate within it's design spec. Whatever it's worth down the road if never a concern for me, since I'll shoot anything, collector piece or not.

    Yeah, I'm that guy who would take out the vintage Ferrari and drive the wheels off it, just the way Enzo would have wanted me to...



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    • #32
      Press Check
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 4879

      Originally posted by Neptune
      Yeah, I'm that guy who would take out the vintage Ferrari and drive the wheels off it, just the way Enzo would have wanted me to...



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      Great analogy.

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      • #33
        Mr310
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2011
        • 5692

        It's all been said already, but just shoot it.

        Not shooting your gun is like not having sex with your girlfriend so that the next guy can enjoy her more.
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        • #34
          tbc
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2011
          • 5955

          Yeah. But having sex with the girlfriend is free.

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          • #35
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44093

            Originally posted by Marlin Hunter
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            and, that one round is fired at the factory!

            Originally posted by tbc
            Yeah. But having sex with the girlfriend is free.
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            • #36
              pyromensch
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2010
              • 6881

              the more rounds that you supply "with" your gun, when you sell it, the better the price
              That may be a CG first!



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              • #37
                Mr310
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2011
                • 5692

                Originally posted by tbc
                Yeah. But having sex with the girlfriend is free.
                I'd much rather have a "date experience" than a date.
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                • #38
                  Evil Quint
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 97

                  Not shooting your gun is like not having sex with your girlfriend so that the next guy can enjoy her more.
                  Dude your cracking me up on that comment.

                  I can easily shoot 100 rounds through a gun at a range session and many times several hundred per visit.

                  The last two guns I bought I started tracking in a spreadsheet when I got back from the range. My Springfield XD9, release form jail in sept, has 450 rds. My Glock 21, released in Oct, has 454 rounds. I just picked up a GP100 that will likely go through about 100 this weekend. I am starting to wonder if its really worth the effort to log hours. Likely nobody other than family/friends will believe me if I ever sell them. Its cool personally knowing the number but I don't see much value in it. I guess it helps know when maintanence is coming up.

                  Do others actually keep a range log? I mean how do you really remember how many rounds you shot per visit over several years. This is why I always question round count since there is no way to go back a few years without logs.
                  Last edited by Evil Quint; 12-09-2011, 10:44 AM.

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                  • #39
                    HPGunner
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1359

                    Originally posted by tbc
                    Yeah. But having sex with the girlfriend is free.
                    Not really - the dinners, the movies, the gifts, etc. etc. adds up. I think buying ammo in bulk or reloading is cheaper.

                    I typically run hundreds of rounds through a brand new gun or used gun I pick up, depends on the gun I may tinker with it and personalize it and run it some more to be sure I'm happy with it's function and reliability. Then it goes into the bullpen or if I really fall in love with it, it goes into my starting rotation and it gets some more action at the range until the next new thing comes along. I'd say round count is always a minimum of 200 rounds on most of my guns, unless it's a collector item that is unfired.

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                    • #40
                      bsg
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 25954

                      condition is paramount, and the rarer the gun... the more forgiveness is allowed regarding condition.

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                      • #41
                        Lead Waster
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 16650

                        It's about marketing. The gun is not used with 500 rounds down the pipe, it's "preseasoned". So it's broken in, so you don't have to!
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                        • #42
                          Lead Waster
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 16650

                          Originally posted by Evil Quint
                          Dude your cracking me up on that comment.

                          I can easily shoot 100 rounds through a gun at a range session and many times several hundred per visit.

                          The last two guns I bought I started tracking in a spreadsheet when I got back from the range. My Springfield XD9, release form jail in sept, has 450 rds. My Glock 21, released in Oct, has 454 rounds. I just picked up a GP100 that will likely go through about 100 this weekend. I am starting to wonder if its really worth the effort to log hours. Likely nobody other than family/friends will believe me if I ever sell them. Its cool personally knowing the number but I don't see much value in it. I guess it helps know when maintanence is coming up.

                          Do others actually keep a range log? I mean how do you really remember how many rounds you shot per visit over several years. This is why I always question round count since there is no way to go back a few years without logs.
                          I have 2 guns that are less than a year old, I've already lost track of the round count! Why log at all, it's really pointless. If you do want to track rounds, then count the number of boxes of ammo that you've used up, not every single round. If you don't reload, then you'll know how many boxes you've bought (maybe).
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                          • #43
                            shooterdude
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 844

                            Originally posted by shooterdude
                            Value is based on perception and situation. What if the gun was a 1 year old CZ, had 20,000 rounds through it and was used to win trophy's in shooting competitions by a top competitor like Angus Hobdell?

                            If you wanted THAT gun because it has a track record of success in the hands of a champion the round count wouldn't be an issue, would it? You would want a gun with a proven track record that in your mind might better your chances of winning a trophy too.

                            Competition is a lot like like home defense; the gun has to be reliable and accurate to be considered appropriate for its mission.
                            Originally posted by IllTemperedCur
                            Except that I imagine that professional, sponsored shooters are a lot like NASCAR drivers. Their equipment is expected to perform at a world-class level for a very short period of time, before being totally rebuilt or replaced. That gun would have definite value as a collectible, though.
                            And what makes you come to THAT conclusion? Guns are such simple little machines that even when "souped up" they still last a long time. This thread is feeding a confabulation.

                            Pistols last for hundreds of thousands of rounds with normal maintenance whether they are customized for competition or factory stock.

                            The only things in this world that truly have a limited lifespan are people...they will die whether they are perfectly healthy or seriously ill. Most all of the things that people make will outlast them by a large factor.
                            Using C Products 10 round magazines in my AR-15...just to be "safe"...

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                            • #44
                              Moto
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 854

                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              and, that one round is fired at the factory!



                              Ahh, to be young and nieve again. Someday you'll realize just how much it really costs.


                              Yes sir,

                              women are the most costly things in this world.

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                              • #45
                                Moto
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 854

                                My New one month old Glock has 550 rounds through it. I need to shoot more
                                to catch up to you guys, haha.
                                Freedom in the USA is not the freedom from offense. It is actually the freedom to offend.

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