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  • Scorpiusdeus
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 332

    Armed Forces members need HSC???

    Do you still need an HSC if you are in the military (have I.D. card) in CA?
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    Scorpiusdeus
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    • Jul 2007
    • 332

    Great thanks.

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    • #3
      N6ATF
      Banned
      • Jul 2007
      • 8383

      What if you're medical or a chaplain? Wouldn't imagine you'd get handgun safety by default.

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        slowfire
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 366

        excemption numbers for Military are as ff
        X-21 Active Duty
        X-22 Miltary Reserves
        X-25 Military Honorably Retired
        in all cases let the FFL decide if they wish to use either your I.D., DD-214 or Hon. Ret. paper work. If you are temporarily assigned here then the suggestion to bring a copy of your orders will also be helpful.

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        • #5
          JimAmentler
          Vendor/Retailer
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2005
          • 1579

          Originally posted by N6ATF
          What if you're medical or a chaplain? Wouldn't imagine you'd get handgun safety by default.
          Those of us in medical also carry and are trained with weapons by the military. At least those of us stationed with the Marine Corps.
          V/R,
          Jim "Doc" Amentler
          Alpha Safety Training - Follow us on Twitter and Facebook!
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          • #6
            sammy
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 3847

            My dad joined the marines in the 50's and was honerably discharged. He has no proof of his service. Does he need a military ID or discharge paperwork not to take the test?

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            • #7
              lawnrevenge
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 969

              What if you're medical or a chaplain? Wouldn't imagine you'd get handgun safety by default.
              Somebody's been watching too much MASH...
              Originally posted by AJAX22
              Being law abiding doesn't mean you have to get down on all fours and bleat like an ewe.

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              • #8
                CSDGuy
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 3763

                Originally posted by sammy
                My dad joined the marines in the 50's and was honerably discharged. He has no proof of his service. Does he need a military ID or discharge paperwork not to take the test?
                Honorably Discharged is not the same as Honorably Retired. He'd need his DD214 to prove that he was Honorably Retired vs. Honorably Discharged.

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                • #9
                  ocabj
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 7924

                  That is correct. Honorable Discharge is not exempt from HSC.

                  Distinguished Rifleman #1924
                  NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
                  NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

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                  • #10
                    RRangel
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 5164

                    Originally posted by sammy
                    My dad joined the marines in the 50's and was honerably discharged. He has no proof of his service. Does he need a military ID or discharge paperwork not to take the test?
                    You now need to be a retired veteran in order to be exempt. This wasn't the case until the new HSC law went into effect January 1st 2003, in place of the older BFSC(basic firearms safety certificate). Both are a disingenuous crock given the nature of our gun loving legislature. All veterans were exempt until the gun grabbers saw fit to create more restriction, as usual.

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                    • #11
                      4 Brigada
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 2119

                      You now need to be a retired veteran in order to be exempt.
                      How did we let that one get by?
                      I have neither the inclination or the time to relieve people of the regional and ethnic handicaps that they inherited from their ancestors.

                      You should banish any thoughts of how you may appear to others.
                      Marcus Aurelius

                      "I won't be wronged, I wont be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."
                      the "Duke" in the shootist

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                      • #12
                        MedSpec65
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 634

                        Originally posted by JimAmentler
                        Those of us in medical also carry and are trained with weapons by the military. At least those of us stationed with the Marine Corps.
                        [ Same in the Army, Jim.
                        "We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem. We can now fire in any direction and strike the enemy." ....Colonel Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller, Commanding the 1st Marine Regiment at The Battle of The Chosin Reservoir, Korea 1950

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                        • #13
                          CSDGuy
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 3763

                          Originally posted by slowfire
                          X-25 Military Honorably Retired
                          This got through probably because somebody didn't look too hard and didn't realize that it was NOT the same as as "Honorably Discharged".

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                          • #14
                            JimAmentler
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1579

                            Originally posted by MedSpec65
                            [ Same in the Army, Jim.

                            Good to go! I'm actually doing a fantastic medical class right now that is taught by several former SF guys. Great shooters and medical guys.
                            V/R,
                            Jim "Doc" Amentler
                            Alpha Safety Training - Follow us on Twitter and Facebook!
                            Multi State CCW Instructor - Next class:
                            Livermore, CA - July, 2018
                            Defensive Medicine (Oh S#!t, I Think I've Been Shot!):
                            Sacramento, CA - June 23, 2018

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                            • #15
                              4 Brigada
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 2119

                              when you are retired military you generally get a retired military card. if you are a cook in the military it still exempts you. or even if all you did was empty latrines
                              Good to go, since the personnel that cooks or the personnel that searches houses all have to qualified with some kind of firearms. Whether you retired or have an honorable discharge shouldnt make a difference on firearm proficiency. Short personal story in the military you get fire safety training, some like the Navy very elaborate, some its just the use of a fire extinguisher class. Its every year, If you cant get the operation of a fire extinguisher down pat in the first 3 years of training there is no hope, 20 years of a yearly class arent goint to make a difference. Same with firearms qualification. But my point is there any provisions for the vets of lets say WW2 the served but didnt retire.
                              Last edited by 4 Brigada; 11-08-2007, 9:16 PM.
                              I have neither the inclination or the time to relieve people of the regional and ethnic handicaps that they inherited from their ancestors.

                              You should banish any thoughts of how you may appear to others.
                              Marcus Aurelius

                              "I won't be wronged, I wont be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."
                              the "Duke" in the shootist

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