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  • #16
    osxgp
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    • Jun 2010
    • 435

    Moon clips?
    Last edited by osxgp; 11-13-2011, 9:19 PM.

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    • #17
      zfields
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2010
      • 13658

      Originally posted by IrishPirate
      not saying it's a good idea, not saying it's worth trying....just wondering how the numbers lined up. What's possible is not always what's smart. I'm sure I'd stick just with .357 and .38 when i get my .357mag revolver. like i said, just had the question stuck in my head.

      what's the worst that would happen though given the very slight differences?? (that's a real question, not a speculative dismissal...)
      using a 9mm cylinder? Loss on accuracy. There was a thread bouncing around a while related to that.
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      • #18
        IrishPirate
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        • Aug 2009
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        i meant with a .357 cylinder, but if they make a 9mm cylinder for .357 then i would assume the barrel is capable of handling 9mm or .380 from a .357 cylinder right?????
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        • #19
          billybob_jcv
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          • Jul 2011
          • 1507

          The blackhawk can...

          He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
          -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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          • #20
            zfields
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            • Aug 2010
            • 13658

            Originally posted by IrishPirate
            i meant with a .357 cylinder, but if they make a 9mm cylinder for .357 then i would assume the barrel is capable of handling 9mm or .380 from a .357 cylinder right?????
            yes, but the barrel isnt quite the right size. CSA stated earlier, it may not catch the rifling correctly, therefore killing your accuracy.
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            • #21
              caldude
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              • Oct 2007
              • 1253

              Coincidentally - I shot my 9mm cylinder in my .357 Blackhawk today, and it was very accurate. In fact my groups at 10 yds were much better with the revolver than with any of my 9mm pistols. Of course, part of that is my shooting, but part of that is the inherent accuracy of the 9mm Blackhawk.

              So those of you who say that a 9mm bullet will 'bounce' down a .357 bore - not in my gun!

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              • #22
                ojisan
                Agent 86
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                • Apr 2008
                • 11760

                The 9mm case is slightly tapered and will not fit into a .357 / .38 special chamber.
                A 380 case will usually fit in but it has no rim to hold the case in place so the firing pin can hit the primer hard enough to set it off.
                You also use some older calibers like .38 colt etc that are rimmed.

                Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
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                • #23
                  Fishslayer
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 13035

                  Originally posted by osxgp
                  Moon clips?
                  Moon clips let you extract fired rimless cases from a revolver. They headspace on the case mouth and will fire just fine, getting 'em out is the problem. Not an issue in a Blackhawk.

                  Here's the Wiki...



                  I have no idea why anybody would want to fire 9mm out of a .357 revolver...

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                  Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                  I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                  Originally posted by redcliff
                  A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                  • #24
                    QuarterBoreGunner
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 9389

                    Sounds like you're looking for a Medusa Revolver:

                    The Medusa is a very unusual revolver produced by Phillips & Rodgers that have the ability to chamber multiple calibers in the same revolver. The Medusa chambers, fires, and extracts 25 different cartridges in the .38/9mm/.357 ammunition range. The obvious advantage of this is that the person can use the revolver for targeting shooting with a lighter and less expensive caliber and switch to a heavier caliber for self defense.
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                    • #25
                      the_t0ny
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1010

                      Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
                      Sounds like you're looking for a Medusa Revolver:
                      Wow that's awesome, but I wonder if the $899 price is current or it's an older article with outdated pricing? And I wonder if it's even on the roster?

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                      • #26
                        Fishslayer
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        The Medusa is a very unusual revolver produced by Phillips & Rodgers that have the ability to chamber multiple calibers in the same revolver. The Medusa chambers, fires, and extracts 25 different cartridges in the .38/9mm/.357 ammunition range. The obvious advantage of this is that the person can use the revolver for targeting shooting with a lighter and less expensive caliber and switch to a heavier caliber for self defense.
                        My guess would be that you could barrel it for the .355 9mm bullet & it should work with .357/.358. Shooting cast boolits should be no problem at all. I would be careful trying superlight handloads with jacketed bullets tho.

                        Personally, I have enough trouble keeping up with the 4 pistol calibers I load for now. 25 calibers??
                        "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
                        You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                        You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                        Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                        I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                        Originally posted by redcliff
                        A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                        • #27
                          billybob_jcv
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1507

                          Here ya go - one gun to rule them all...


                          It won't shoot rimless, but if you can shoot .22, .38, .357, .44, .454 & .500, do you really need 9mm, .380 & .45??



                          FYI, here's more details on the Medusa:

                          He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
                          -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

                          I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
                          -Milton Friedman

                          What kind of government do you guys got here? This is worse than California.
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                          • #28
                            plumbum
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2010
                            • 5394

                            It's not an issue of getting a .35 caliber bullet to go down a .35 caliber barrel (.001" +/- is not going to makes the bullets keyhole, kids) it is getting the cases to fit in the chambers of your revolver. The cases for .38 Special and .357 are straight walled, and the 9x19mm is actually tapered, so if you are lucky, it might go halfway into the chambers. The revolver cartridges are nice and rimmed, so even if cut short, they still headspace just fine. The pistol cases must headspace on the case mouth, and must have a proper length for the primer to be within reach of the firing pin; moon clips (or in the case of the Medusa revolver, the Israeli S&W, the Charter CARR, using modified extractor stars) are to hold the cases because the cylinder will not headspace or extract them properly.

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                            • #29
                              Fishslayer
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                              • Jan 2010
                              • 13035

                              I see one revolver and a collection of barrels & cylinders...

                              NOW! That 8 (?) shooter cylinder has my attention. I "get" making all the six shooters work, but how in tarnation do they get the 8 shooter to time correctly without changing the guts?

                              Originally posted by billybob_jcv
                              Here ya go - one gun to rule them all...


                              It won't shoot rimless, but if you can shoot .22, .38, .357, .44, .454 & .500, do you really need 9mm, .380 & .45??



                              FYI, here's more details on the Medusa:

                              http://airbornecombatengineer.typepa..._revolver.html
                              "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
                              You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                              You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                              Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                              I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                              Originally posted by redcliff
                              A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                              • #30
                                billybob_jcv
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1507

                                Originally posted by Fishslayer
                                I see one revolver and a collection of barrels & cylinders...

                                NOW! That 8 (?) shooter cylinder has my attention. I "get" making all the six shooters work, but how in tarnation do they get the 8 shooter to time correctly without changing the guts?
                                No idea - Maybe it has something to do with that appendage that seems to be hanging off the side of the cylinder??
                                He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
                                -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

                                I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
                                -Milton Friedman

                                What kind of government do you guys got here? This is worse than California.
                                -Woody Allen, Sleepers

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