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  • IrishPirate
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    • Aug 2009
    • 6390

    .357 shooting other calibers?

    was wondering if it's possible to shoot 9mm or .380 in a .357mag revolver? i know they're rimless so you'd have to figure out how to keep them in the cylinder, but assuming that wasn't an issue, would it work? Doesn't seem like it would be worth it, but it's interesting and for some reason i can't get the question out of my head...
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    dunndeal
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    • Sep 2009
    • 5204

    I've got a Python so the answer will interest me also. But I wonder why, .38s, 38+P and .357 magnum rounds give plenty of options.

    I'm not knocking you, just very curious.
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    • #3
      zfields
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      • Aug 2010
      • 13658

      9mm is not the same size bullet. Its close, but slightly different.
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      • #4
        Cokebottle
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        • Oct 2009
        • 32373

        Yup.
        .357 and .38spl is it.

        The bullets are "nominally" .38"/9mm... not exactly.

        Also, after firing .38 from a .357, clean the cylinder before going back to .357 or the cases will stick and you'll have a hard time ejecting them.
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        • #5
          maxwellca21
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          • Oct 2009
          • 954

          .38 > .357...therefore, a .357 barrel and a .380 bullet probably would not work. That just my assumption.
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          • #6
            chrisf
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            • Aug 2011
            • 6501

            I don't think that would be a very good idea :-/ And not much benefits from it.

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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
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              The short answer is that 9mm cylinders have been made for .38/.357 revolvers.

              Originally posted by maxwellca21
              .38 > .357...therefore, a .357 barrel and a .380 bullet probably would not work. That just my assumption.
              In this case, you're comparing apples to oranges and .380 projectiles actually have a smaller diameter than .357 mag bullets do. .380 bullets are the same size as 9mm bullets. Now, if you have a source for hollow based .380 or 9mm bullets, they would work fine in a .38/.357 barrel.
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              • #8
                Cokebottle
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                • Oct 2009
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                Yup...

                9mm Luger/Parabellum = .356 bullet, .380 neck
                .38sp/.357 Mag = .357 bullet, .379 neck
                .357 Sig = .355 bullet, .381 neck (I know, the taper means it wouldn't fit anyways)
                .380acp = .355 bullet, .373 neck
                .38 Super = .355 bullet, .384 neck
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                Originally posted by dantodd
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                • #9
                  grommit666
                  Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 121

                  According to wikipedia, the size of the 9mm bullet is .356 which seems like it should work (I doubt manufacturing tolerances are tighter than +/- .001"). And full moon clips for 9mm are cheap and readily available so holding the rounds in place shouldn't be an issue. It sounds to me like it could work. I'm just some guy with an internet connection though, so don't take my word for it. If you try it, please post the results.
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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
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                    Originally posted by grommit666
                    According to wikipedia, the size of the 9mm bullet is .356 which seems like it should work (I doubt manufacturing tolerances are tighter than +/- .001"). And full moon clips for 9mm are cheap and readily available so holding the rounds in place shouldn't be an issue. It sounds to me like it could work. I'm just some guy with an internet connection though, so don't take my word for it. If you try it, please post the results.
                    Most 9mm bullets are .355 but, a thousandth or two difference can make the difference between a bullet that catches the rifling and spins verses one that bounces down the barrel and keyholes. Full moon clips can only be used if the cylinder is capable of accepting them and the spacing is correct for that particular cylinder.
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                    • #11
                      zfields
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 13658

                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      The short answer is that 9mm cylinders have been made for .38/.357 revolvers.
                      Always herd that if you are using those cylinders, to load a relatively soft lead bullet to help with gas seal. No idea how accurate that is, but worth a though.
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                      • #12
                        pyromensch
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                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6881

                        Originally posted by maxwellca21
                        .38 > .357...therefore, a .357 barrel and a .380 bullet probably would not work. That just my assumption.
                        380 is a designation, bullet diameters are different.

                        38 spl and 357 mag are 357, to 358 caliber

                        9mm is 355 caliber, 380 is 9mm kurtz (short), and therefore 355 caliber

                        it could possibly be done, given proper support for the round, to be sticken?, by the firing pin, but WHY?

                        just as (the current) 44 spl, and 44 mag's bullet diameter's are 429 caliber, really not a "44" at all
                        That may be a CG first!



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                        • #13
                          billybob_jcv
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                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1507

                          Get yourself a Ruger Blackhawk with the 9mm cylinder....
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                          • #14
                            IrishPirate
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                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6390

                            not saying it's a good idea, not saying it's worth trying....just wondering how the numbers lined up. What's possible is not always what's smart. I'm sure I'd stick just with .357 and .38 when i get my .357mag revolver. like i said, just had the question stuck in my head.

                            what's the worst that would happen though given the very slight differences?? (that's a real question, not a speculative dismissal...)
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                            • #15
                              osxgp
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                              • Jun 2010
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