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  • #16
    9mmepiphany
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 8075

    Originally posted by Oldnoob
    The older generation Sig 226 has carbon steel, pressed, two piece slide VS later stainless steel, one piece slide.
    Actually the old carbon slides are called stamped or folded and are made up of 4 major pieces (body, front cap, rear cap and breach block)...the front and rear caps are welding on after the body is formed; the breach block is pinned in.

    I also prefer the folded carbon slides. They are light and have a different balance. They also have a flat on the top of the slide in front of the ejection port that directs the eye toward the front sight.

    On the 226, the internal extractors are only on the folded slides and the external one on the stainless machined slides...they didn't have the problems that Kimber had with their external extractors
    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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    • #17
      tbhracing
      Banned
      • Oct 2008
      • 5523

      This has been a major issue for a long time. I am NOT a Sig Expert and even I can tell the difference between quality of the cranked out US models vs the German. I have two Sigs- German P226 and P228. They are both sweet and I love their lines. The newer P226 I dont care much for, just dont.

      Sig is now churing out lots of different exotic models of pistols. It looks like they are focusing on quanity vs quality. They need to STOP getting fancy and worrying about making so much money. They need to get back to making QUALITY pistols.

      The joke is still the same- Their old motto was "To hell and back relaibility". Now its "To hell with relaibility".

      Just my take. I am sure your US Sig will serve you fine.

      The OLD Sig tagline I miss-

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      • #18
        Sturnovik
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 2937

        Originally posted by sammy
        So doing a little searching on the Sig forum on my new 226 I am finding there are guys that will flat out not own one 226 vs another. So what is the scoop on the different Sig 226's? It looks like there are German and US models, internal and external extractor models, stainless, carbon steel, Nitron ect..

        I remember Kimber had massive reliability problems with the type II models and their external extractors. I have never heard of a 226 having problems with theirs and am confused as to why they would currently produce 2 designs of the same gun.

        What is a better gun and why?

        Thanks, Sammy
        Dont worry OP, there both great quality, I have used plenty of them.

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        • #19
          huckberry668
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 1502

          Originally posted by sammy
          Yep, I called Sig customer service and got that talk. They are designed for defensive work but all I shoot is paper and expired canned goods. Do you know how Trijicon sets up their sights?
          Yeah, I had the same problem with my German P220. 12 o'clock hold was ticking me off so one day I measured the differences of front and rear sight heights and the POI and POA and did some geometry calculation and figured out how many 1000ths to remove and took a file to the front sight. Now it's dead on. My groups land right on top of the front sight at 25 yards.

          I wouldn't recommend filing it if you don't know what you're doing. You can just buy a set of adjustable sights.
          Last edited by huckberry668; 10-30-2011, 10:28 AM.
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          • #20
            Striker
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 750

            Originally posted by sammy
            Yep, I called Sig customer service and got that talk. They are designed for defensive work but all I shoot is paper and expired canned goods. Do you know how Trijicon sets up their sights?
            If it's a 9mm, they should be direct replacements. So that means #8 front and rear. Put the front dot on top of where you want the round to hit and provided you do your part that's where it should land. http://www.kyledefoor.com/2009/06/si...secrets-1.html

            I wouldn't worry about the gun unless you have a problem. Make sure you keep it lubed (mandatory with a Sig, it's not a Glock), the rails greased (prevents galling) and do the maintenance at the prescribed intervals. If you don't have any problems in the first 1000 rounds, you should be fine. If you need warranty work, get Sig to do it. If you need modifications or you need the gun worked on out of warranty, get Gray Guns to do it. They are the best with Sig pistols.

            Enjoy.

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            • #21
              ap3572001
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 6039

              If I was buying another Sig, I would try to get one made in W.Germany or Made in Germany.

              Just me.

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              • #22
                Neptune
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1165

                No problems with Sig 1911's. Hey, I'm just sayin'....




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                I don't think it's nice,...you laughing.
                You see, my mule don't like people laughing.
                He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him.
                Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to,
                I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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                • #23
                  sammy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3847

                  So I got back from shooting it this afternoon and it ran 100% perfect. The sights needed no adjustment and it shoots an ideal point of aim. It was fed 124g. and 115g. Zeros with a wide range of different loads and powders. From the weakest to strongest they were all very accurate.

                  My only gripe is the trigger hs a large amount of creep in single action. Group sizes were 3" at 15 yards which could be halved with a better trigger. I shoot a Beretta 92FS almost exactly the same. It does have a better trigger in single action but the Sig's DA trigger is shorter and smoother. In all a very good day. Thanks to everyone for the help.

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                  • #24
                    18sam2011
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 777

                    Get an SRT kit installed and that should help a lot with the "creep" you speak of. Either that or dish out the cash and have gray guns do their duty package with the short reset.

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                    • #25
                      sammy
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3847

                      Originally posted by erik18
                      Get an SRT kit installed and that should help a lot with the "creep" you speak of. Either that or dish out the cash and have gray guns do their duty package with the short reset.

                      Have you seen Grey Guns pricing? I just googled them and this duty package is $325.00 I can live with the creep and spend the money on powder and primers.

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                      • #26
                        18sam2011
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 777

                        Originally posted by sammy
                        Have you seen Grey Guns pricing? I just googled them and this duty package is $325.00 I can live with the creep and spend the money on powder and primers.
                        Yes, I have seen it and have spent the money to have it done to one of my 229s. I feel it is well worth the cost. The 229 is the smoothest sig I have ever felt.

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                        • #27
                          9mmepiphany
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 8075

                          It really is worth the price...you'll never understand until you've shot one
                          ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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