glock hating? What does everyone have against polymer?

[LovingTheYear1911]

Personally I dont like the trigger on my G22, its not the best trigger and the ergonomics arent the best, but it shoots everything, is reliable, and pretty darn accurate.

Who ever hates on Glock, obviously has some sort of bias or is ignorant. If its such a bad weapon, then why are countless LEO and other government officials given one? Ever think why they chose the Glock over other brands?

[QuarterBoreGunner]

If its such a bad weapon, then why are countless LEO and other government officials given one? Ever think why they chose the Glock over other brands?

Uhm, perhaps aggressive marketing, an attractive price point and an extremely generous 'buy-back/upgrade' program?

[bigmark408]

Not my cup of tea but to each his own....everyone is responsible for there own life so what they are comfortable with is fine by me.

[hkdad]

I think the glock hating came as a response of some glock fans calling other polyme pistols as inferior copies...

sorry to burst your bubble but glock was not the first polymer gun on the market! it was the H&K VP70! It was the first polymer-framed pistol and predates the Glock 17 by 12 years.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

sorry to burst your bubble but glock was not the first polymer gun on the market! it was the H&K VP70! It was the first polymer-framed pistol and predates the Glock 17 by 12 years.

How about 'first polymer framed pistol to have success in the mass market?'

Oh, and damn, that VP70 trigger sucked. You needed an engine hoist for that thing.

Though it *did* have that fun 'stock option'

[tacticalcity]

Uhm, perhaps aggressive marketing, an attractive price point and an extremely generous 'buy-back/upgrade' program?

You really think that's why 1st SFOD-D Delta Force chooses them? Or do you think the speed you get from not having a thumb safety, and having the same trigger pull every single time plays a factor. Every book I have ever read about Delta (two of which were written by members of the Unit) says their operators shoot primarily a Glock variant or 1911, with the majority choosing a Glock variant. These are guys who know guns, know defensive shooting, and can pick and choose between anything they want regardless of cost.

The same translates to defensive shooting instructors from the big name schools. They are long beyond being issued guns. They've left their department, agency, or branch of service. They can pick and choose what they carry and what they recommend. The vast majority of the time it is a Glock, the 1911 being a close second.

Simplicity of use, speed, and reliability are why people trust their lives to a Glock. Not marketing, not fancy buy back programs, and certainly not their looks.

[paul0660]

The above statements, while being 100% factually correct and even tempered, get me labelled as a fanboy by the haters. Go figure!

The statements to which you refer are mostly your opinion, not facts.

That is the difference between glock lovers and gun lovers.

Glock has an inherently dangerous trigger (I did not say unsafe) as stated in their manual. It doesn't matter what they are made of or what the grip angle is.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

You really think that's why Delta Force chooses them? Or do you think the speed you get from not having a safety, and having the same trigger pull every single time plays a factor.

No, no, you're mis-interpreting me; my post was in response to why so many LEO agencies went with Glocks (forgot to mention that Glock has an awesome individual officer purchase program as well).

Heck, the points you bring up are some of the reasons why I carry a Glock.

[tacticalcity]

The statements to which you refer are mostly your opinion, not facts.

That is the difference between glock lovers and gun lovers.

Glock has an inherently dangerous trigger (I did not say unsafe) as stated in their manual. It doesn't matter what they are made of or what the grip angle is.

No, they are not. When every major shooting school says the exact same thing. It's not opinion.

You're a hater brother. Plain and simple.

[AAShooter]

I don't hate Glocks . . . just like a good trigger. Nice crisp, clean breaking triggers, fast resetting triggers.

Glock triggers . . . lets just say they don't fall into that category.

[billybob_jcv]

Here we go...

[tacticalcity]

No, no, you're mis-interpreting me; my post was in response to why so many LEO agencies went with Glocks (forgot to mention that Glock has an awesome individual officer purchase program as well).

Heck, the points you bring up are some of the reasons why I carry a Glock.

A lot of agencies are hung up one liability perceptions even post 1911. They are stuck on the 1980s mindset of insisting on a manual thumb safety, and an extremely hard first trigger pull so the officer has time to change his mind just in case the kid really has a squirt gun (or in the modern age a cell phone) instead of real gun. Things that sound wonderful on paper, but in reality get officers killed because when you are the good guy you are almost always WAY behind the power curve and the bad guy is already drawn and threatening your life or the lives of others by the time you draw. So the last thing beat cops need is a gun that is inheriently slower out of the holster. That attitude is changing, even amongst the LAPD. But it was/is an up hill battle.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

It was at this point that everyone was advised to take a breather and relax.

[orangeusa]

No, they are not. When every major shooting school says the exact same thing. It's not opinion.

You're a hater brother. Plain and simple.

We know your opinion. We have our own. Some like them, some don't but it's just a gun. There's a reason there are 100's of handguns to choose from.

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[BlackRain17]

Isn't there a statistic where Glock was used to kill the most people in this world compared to any other brand?