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  • 91 whiskey 209
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 523

    How to improve accuracy?

    So I have a xd40 and not very experienced with handguns. This is my first. I trained with only rifles in the military. Is the sight picture different or something because I have no consistency. I've probably shot about 200 rounds thru it in about 8 months. I obviously hit the target but my groups are about 5" at about 20 feet with 2 or 3 stragglers in a 10 round magazine. Is this normal for a novice? U can't adjust sights on a handgun can u?
  • #2
    Fjold
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 23010

    Absolutely normal for a novice and even if you just don't shoot pistols for awhile.

    Even fixed sites can be moved in their dovetails for sideway adjustments. You just won't be able to adjust for vertical problems without changing out the sights.
    Frank

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    • #3
      swifty
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 929

      Originally posted by 91 whiskey 209
      ... I have no consistency.
      Pay a lot of attention to the sight alignment and sight picture. Be as consistent as possible with both the amount of force used to hold the pistol and smoothness of trigger pull. Use smaller rather than larger targets.

      You already have consistency pegged as the issue, practice along those lines.

      Don't worry about where the group is centered, worry about the group size. Once the groups are a respectable size, then sight adjustments can be made.

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      • #4
        SantaCabinetguy
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 15137

        Originally posted by 91 whiskey 209
        ...Is this normal for a novice?
        Short answer is yes. Keep at it with practice, work on keeping sights aligned and consistency. 200rds is only the beginning, shoot often to get the feel. It is a controlled explosion in your hands so keep @ it
        Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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        • #5
          corvetteguy
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 144

          One of the best ways to get better to to take a class. Get some professional instruction and build the proper fundamentals and then worry about adjusting your sights. Most people try to use equipment to fix a training issue.

          David
          "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
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          • #6
            RollingCode3
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 3221

            Originally posted by 91 whiskey 209
            So I have a xd40 and not very experienced with handguns. This is my first. I trained with only rifles in the military. Is the sight picture different or something because I have no consistency. I've probably shot about 200 rounds thru it in about 8 months. I obviously hit the target but my groups are about 5" at about 20 feet with 2 or 3 stragglers in a 10 round magazine. Is this normal for a novice? U can't adjust sights on a handgun can u?
            200 rounds in 8 months? You need to shoot more.
            Last edited by RollingCode3; 09-02-2011, 1:13 AM.
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            • #7
              fifthward
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 254

              Breathe
              Pull straight back
              Be surprised by the break
              "No I'm not crazy...And neither am I ! Next question!"

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              • #8
                fullrearview
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2008
                • 9371

                Buy a rifle!!!

                J/K

                Practice.
                "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."~M.Twain~

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                • #9
                  ChaneRZ
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2041

                  practice and the grip!

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                  • #10
                    9mmepiphany
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 8075

                    The best way to learn to shoot correctly is to get some professional instruction so you'll be practicing the correct technique and not build bad habits.

                    It has been my experience that most folks don't really have a problem seeing or aligning the sights. But at the same time I've never had a student who understood their grip enough to self correct and very few who understood trigger control. Those two things will shrink your groups from 5-7" down to 2" in a couple of hours of instruction.

                    Common errors that new shooters make is:
                    1. not having complete contact between the grip and your hands
                    2. squeezing the grip, with your other fingers, while you press the trigger
                    3. trying to snap the trigger back as they see the sights perfectly aligned
                    4 paying too much attention to where the bullets are striking the target...chasing your shots
                    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                    • #11
                      appagohm
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1123

                      nothing 2k rounds won't fix ^^
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                      • #12
                        nrakid88
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3285

                        I just went out, and at 10 yards, put five rounds through my 9mm glock in like 2", maybe 3". I am 23, so I haven't had a handgun long, and have only about a thousand and a half center fire handgun rounds experience. Except, i went and bought a .22 conversion for my glock. So I have fired about 2 thousand through that, and 500 through another pistol I had.

                        I have literally gone to the range, fired .22 pistol for 4 hours, and swapped to 9mm every hour for a few minutes.

                        You get to work on your grip, sight alignment, breathing, trigger pull, and your own bodies intrinsic differences, for CHEAP.

                        My advice is get a .22 pistol, or a conversion for your pistol.

                        Lately my problem has been not setting up, and pulling the trigger with my pad instead of my joint, throwing my shots to the left (or right?).
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                        • #13
                          nrakid88
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3285

                          Originally posted by appagohm
                          nothing 2k rounds won't fix ^^
                          He is right.

                          But 2k rounds of .22 is a lot cheaper than 2k of 40.
                          sigpic
                          5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
                          Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                          You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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                          • #14
                            Anchors
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 5940

                            I took a pistol class and what improved me the most were these simple tips:

                            -Exhale and hold it before you start your trigger press, it makes it easier to keep your body alignment as still as possible.
                            -Press straight back on the trigger as slowly, but smoothly as possible.
                            -After each shot, keep the trigger depressed for two seconds afterward (this really helped, for some reason).
                            -Don't move/adjust your body/alignment/sights/grip in between shots! Don't lower your gun to "check" the target in between shots!! (These helped me the most. I was doing this and it was really messing me up). Try to keep very still even between shots and keep your sight picture constant through the whole process.

                            I'm still not a great shot, but it helped A LOT.
                            This was just from an NRA basic pistol course, by the way (even though I had already done a lot of shooting, I took it to get my AZ CWP).
                            You might consider taking a slightly more advanced class as most of it was just gun safety stuff. If I could afford it, I would definitely take shooting lessons.
                            Last edited by Anchors; 09-02-2011, 3:48 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Slicendice
                              Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 99

                              Originally posted by RyanAnchors
                              I took a pistol class and what improved me the most were these simple tips:

                              -Exhale and hold it before you start your trigger press, it makes it easier to keep your body alignment as still as possible.
                              -Press straight back on the trigger as slowly, but smoothly as possible.
                              -After each shot, keep the trigger depressed for two seconds afterward (this really helped, for some reason).
                              -Don't move/adjust your body/alignment/sights/grip in between shots! Don't lower your gun to "check" the target in between shots!! (These helped me the most. I was doing this and it was really messing me up). Try to keep very still even between shots and keep your sight picture constant through the whole process.
                              Thanks for the tips! I recently purchased my first handgun (sig 2022 9mm.. love it!) and am still working on getting my feel for shooting. Hoping to get to the range soon.
                              My tax refund came chambered in 9mm...

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