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  • NewGuy1911
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 539

    ??? Leaving the "complete" handgun in jail for the 10 wait period??

    The serial numbers are on the frame of the pistol, therefore must I leave the slide, barrel, magazines, and what ever else comes with a pistol at the Gun Shop?? I do not like leaving a new pistol for someone to "play" with or show off for ten days and I also do not like leaving the gun store after spending lots of $$$$ with nothing to show for it!!

    If this has been covered before please aim me at the posts. Many Thanks
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    morrcarr67
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2010
    • 14994

    That's a good question.

    I hope someone comes along with a good answer.
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    • #3
      RollingCode3
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3221

      Just leave the frame behind. I usually take the slide and the mags with me home.
      Any gun owner who does not support the NRA is a freeloader.

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      • #4
        corcoraj2002
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 636

        Originally posted by morrcarr67
        That's a good question.

        I hope someone comes along with a good answer.
        Hmmm,

        some have talked about locking the box and I know the shop I use have no problem with that. But not sure what pleasure you will gain from just bring the slide, barrel and magazines back home for 10 days.

        J.
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        • #5
          NewGuy1911
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 539

          Knowing that if something "goes" wrong I have some of the pistol. If something "goes" south your out the deposit (maybe 50% of the price of the pistol).
          "Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short."---Your faithful dog

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          • #6
            zfields
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2010
            • 13658

            Its in there for a backround check.....I dont think they want you running off with everything but the frame.


            Granted the BC takes 2 minutes, but they dont get the report right away.
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            • #7
              Lc17smp
              Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 477

              I was going to ask to do this with a slide on a used gun I bought a while back so I could send it out to be refinished. Ended up not asking as I didn't want to complicate things. In the future I will ask.

              Originally posted by corcoraj2002
              Hmmm,

              some have talked about locking the box and I know the shop I use have no problem with that. But not sure what pleasure you will gain from just bring the slide, barrel and magazines back home for 10 days.

              J.
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              • #8
                Briancnelson
                Senior Member
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2011
                • 802

                The gun dealers I've dealt with usually want me to leave it all in the box, but let me lock the pistol with a cable lock so noone can fire it.

                I would think they'd want to keep all of the parts in their possession even if they got back a DROS on you instantly, until you could buy it. Then they can say they delivered a complete product to you and you took possession on day x. I don't know that the law distinguishes any part of the handgun from the other and I wouldn't want to take that chance if I were an FFL.

                Magazines and accessories that came with the gun I could see letting walk, if the gun is fully paid for, none of those are really as problematic legally.
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                • #9
                  tangent
                  Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 104

                  Id like to know this as well. I wouldn't do it, I just want to know out of curiosity.

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                  • #10
                    Bakerloo
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1691

                    That's a good question. What if you wanted to send the slide out for new sights during the 10 day wait?
                    ...while the buffoon in the White House prances around celebrating butt sex.

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                    • #11
                      redcliff
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5676

                      Your dealer may balk at this if you're required to do a handgun safety demonstration at time of delivery. There are some exemptions to that requirement though.
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                      • #12
                        jingerale
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 1997

                        well, I guess the question is when you actually legally own the firearm. Yes you paid for it, but without passing the BC, do you legally own it? If I was the shop, I would not let you take anything from the box. You can lock it and take the key.

                        I was going to ask what happens to the gun's value if you take any parts of it and do not pass a bc. When you return the slide and barrel, how does the shop know it's un-used.
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                        • #13
                          drkphibr
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 2460

                          Taking the slide

                          Based on paste experiences and what shop I'm doing business with, I now do one of the following:

                          If the shop is fine with me locking the box (I always ask, as it's a shop thing and NOT a DOJ/BATF requirement to leave it unloced unless a BATF agent request the case be opened if it's locked - then the shop may/will cut it)

                          If I can't lock the box (or forgot to bring a lock) and it's a semi, I'll ask if they have issues with me taking the slide. Haven't been turned down yet, but have been reminded to bring it back to do the safe handling demo

                          If it's a wheel gun and I can't lock the case, I'll put a cable lock through either the barrel (depending on length) or the cylinder. My goal is to prevent playing with it.

                          Most shops are pretty cool about the fact you own something that you don't want anyone else playing with, especially if it's a higher value firearm.

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                          • #14
                            NewGuy1911
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 539

                            My understanding once the serial #s recorded it"s a "used" pistol. I have been asked for at least a 50% deposit (no refundable, if this goes south, tough).

                            If someone buys a high $$$$$ pistol what's the chances someone in the shop will be taking your gun out of the cardboard box? If the gun store does not carry that brand, what do you think?
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                            • #15
                              CK_32
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14369

                              Originally posted by RollingCode3
                              Just leave the frame behind. I usually take the slide and the mags with me home.
                              I doubt that....

                              Originally posted by zfields
                              Its in there for a backround check.....I dont think they want you running off with everything but the frame.


                              Granted the BC takes 2 minutes, but they dont get the report right away.
                              Thats exactly why I doubt it.... If you dont clear then wtf are they going to do... Ive already asked and they said the whole gun must stay.
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