help an ignorant fool?

[moo]

I've never owned a handgun, but shoot clays with my shotgun now and then. I've been wanting a revolver for some time for plinking and informal target shooting. A Ruger GP100 felt good, but the Ruger Security Six felt better to me.

Anyway..

I recently won an auction for a .357 revolver, a Ruger Security Six (circa 1977) . I'm in CA and the seller (a private party) is in AZ.

My FFL tells me the Security Six (father of Ruger's GP100 revolver) is not on the CA DOJ roster, and can't be transfered to me. He says that if it were in CA, then a private party transfer could be arranged.

Looking at the DOJ website, I noticed this:

"Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement."

I understand that private party transfers are exempt, but is it true that such transfers are only exempt as long as they are taking place within the State of California? (i.e., no out of state Ruger Security Sixes can be transferred in).

Sorry if this sort of thing has been asked a million times. I live on 40 acres in the middle of a National Forest and figured that getting a revolver wouldn't be anymore difficult than getting a shotgun. My bad, or something. I'm still in CA.

Thanks.

[AJAX22]

The seller is correct, its not on the list and therefore cannot be sent through a dealer into the state of CA as a double action.

however.... If he removes the correct spring the double action becomes a single action and it should be ok for transfer. (correct me if I'm wrong guys)

once its DROS'd to you you can stick the spring back in.

Welcome to CA gun laws.

[1911jerry]

Sorry, lots of limitations in Kali....

JS

[bwiese]

Correct.

For all practical purposes, you can't get a Security Six from outta state unless the out-of-state person was a grandparent, parent or child (allowing interfamilar transfer) or you're receiving it from probate (will/inheritance).

It's not on the Roster of Approved Handguns, and never will be.

Realizing this, I hope you are
(1) a registered voter or are becoming one;
(2) vote with guns in mind;
(3) are a member of NRA.

[moo]

Sorry, lots of limitations in Kali....

JS

I live 40 miles from the Nevada border, which just makes it more frustrating...

[moo]

Correct.

For all practical purposes, you can't get a Security Six from outta state unless the out-of-state person was a grandparent, parent or child (allowing interfamilar transfer) or you're receiving it from probate (will/inheritance).

It's not on the Roster of Approved Handguns, and never will be.

Realizing this, I hope you are
(1) a registered voter or are becoming one;
(2) vote with guns in mind;
(3) are a member of NRA.

Thanks for making things very clear, Bill.

[moo]

The seller is correct, its not on the list and therefore cannot be sent through a dealer into the state of CA as a double action.

however.... If he removes the correct spring the double action becomes a single action and it should be ok for transfer. (correct me if I'm wrong guys)

once its DROS'd to you you can stick the spring back in.

Welcome to CA gun laws.

Thank you, but that could involve needle-nosed pliers.

I am in a rural area, just wanting to shoot targets on occasion. I am not looking for any trouble.

Regards,

moo

[walter]

what my gun store told me is that no used guns can come into CA.. only new guns that are on the list

[bigthaiboy]

[QUOTE what my gun store told me is that no used guns can come into CA.. only new guns that are on the list[/QUOTE]

Unless the handgun is classified as Curio & Relic (C&R) and was manufactured 50+ years ago. Unfortunately, the Security Six is not quite old enough (1972-88).

If you still want a Security Six, look for a private party sale in CA. Prices are around $200 - $250.

[Shane916]

Thank you, but that could involve needle-nosed pliers.

I am in a rural area, just wanting to shoot targets on occasion. I am not looking for any trouble.

Regards,

moo

You just have it modified for the transfer and modify it back after. No legal ramifications what-so-ever. The AFS will show the gun registered to you and everything will be hunky dory

[want_ar]

Guys, please don't waste your time replying to this person. He is just trolling to aggravate people. If you want to kill brain cells I suggest doing something more fun like some decent beer.

[pepsi2451]

I can drink and post at the same time.

What makes you think he is trolling?

[moo]

My FFL said he would not accept a Ruger Security Six from out of state because it is simply not on the DOJ roster of approved handguns, and that changing springs/action does not change the fact that it is still a Security Six, and not on the DOJ roster.

Maybe my FFL is a troll, but what he said seemed to make sense.

[odesskiy]

I live 40 miles from the Nevada border, which just makes it more frustrating...

I'd definitely move to the other side of the border.

[want_ar]

What makes you think he is trolling?

His post history and the threads he has started:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/search.php?searchid=1015893

They seem legitimate until you keep reading and realize that he doesn't want to be helped but is posting just to annoy people.