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  • Ctwo
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 182

    microstamp

    Are handguns sold in CA today microstamped. For example, a Ruger MarkIII .22?
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    Scratch705
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2009
    • 12530

    no, the microstamping law is concerning the ammo shot out of a handgun. not the handgun itself.
    Originally posted by leelaw
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    • #3
      Librarian
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      • Oct 2005
      • 44660

      Originally posted by Ctwo
      Are handguns sold in CA today microstamped. For example, a Ruger MarkIII .22?
      No - the law passed, but no regs implementing it have been issued; there are specific legal problems with the patent.
      Originally posted by Scratch705
      no, the microstamping law is concerning the ammo shot out of a handgun. not the handgun itself.
      Not in CA, though a bill proposing ammo serialization has been introduced at least once - don't recall if it has been more than once.

      The handgun microstamping would, theoretically, mark the fired slugs cases with identifying info.
      Last edited by Librarian; 07-12-2011, 7:08 PM. Reason: cases, not slugs
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      • #4
        c good
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 2665

        I though the microstamping was only for marking the casings not the bullets themselves. IIRC the law would require firing pins and breach faces to have microstamping thus imprinting identifying numbers/letters upon firing on the spent case. Guess they never thought about revolvers. Something about proprietary technology with Nanotech having a monopoly is preventing the implementation of the law from what I remember. c good

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        • #5
          Librarian
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          • Oct 2005
          • 44660

          Originally posted by c good
          I though the microstamping was only for marking the casings not the bullets themselves. IIRC the law would require firing pins and breach faces to have microstamping thus imprinting identifying numbers/letters upon firing on the spent case. Guess they never thought about revolvers. Something about proprietary technology with Nanotech having a monopoly is preventing the implementation of the law from what I remember. c good
          Whoops, you're right - it's a casing-marking scheme.

          Thanks - I'll fix my post above.
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            morrcarr67
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            • Jul 2010
            • 15034

            Originally posted by c good
            I though the microstamping was only for marking the casings not the bullets themselves. IIRC the law would require firing pins and breach faces to have microstamping thus imprinting identifying numbers/letters upon firing on the spent case. Guess they never thought about revolvers. Something about proprietary technology with Nanotech having a monopoly is preventing the implementation of the law from what I remember. c good
            That's the same thing I heard too. Hopefully they will keep the patent on that technology for a long time.
            Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

            Originally posted by Erion929

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            • #7
              Ctwo
              Member
              • May 2011
              • 182

              Thanks!

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              • #8
                PRCABR4Christ
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 954

                Try a microstamping system in a 1911...I doubt it would fly, I would hope no reputable makers would put such a thing into a pistol, that would make another reason to only buy used

                the cost of microstamping sure sounds like it would be expensive though
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                • #9
                  Ctwo
                  Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 182

                  I don't know about the technology, but I'd guess it could be laser imprinted at about a buck a pin.

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                  • #10
                    DCF
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1188

                    So does that mean we have to register the firing pin now too? And it will be illegal to change out a firing pin without registration and a 10 day waiting period...

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                    • #11
                      Turo
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2009
                      • 5066

                      Originally posted by DCF
                      So does that mean we have to register the firing pin now too? And it will be illegal to change out a firing pin without registration and a 10 day waiting period...
                      Oh yeah, and firing pins would have to be changed out every thousand rounds or so as the stamping wears off.

                      I would very much like to slap the face of every single person who thinks that microstamping a firing pin is a good idea. Maybe, just maybe it would knock the tiniest bit of sense into their heads. Oops, there I go again thinking anti-gunners could possibly think rationally for a minute.
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                      • #12
                        Librarian
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 44660

                        See how easy it is to find problems with the idea?

                        Literally hundreds of people pointed out those problems - and more! - to the Legislators. That's one of the ways we know this law has nothing to do with safety or crime.
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                        • #13
                          shadow65
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1301

                          Another absolutly useless waste of time and money.
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                          • #14
                            Dhena81
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 4587

                            I would just change out my firing pin asap I really don't know what this accomplishes. I would hate to see someone prosecuted for their range brass littered at a crime scene because that's the only evidence they had for conviction however unlikely.

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                            • #15
                              DocSkinner
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1225

                              Originally posted by c good
                              I though the microstamping was only for marking the casings not the bullets themselves. IIRC the law would require firing pins and breach faces to have microstamping thus imprinting identifying numbers/letters upon firing on the spent case. Guess they never thought about revolvers. Something about proprietary technology with Nanotech having a monopoly is preventing the implementation of the law from what I remember. c good
                              Revolvers don't eject the cartridges automatically at crime scenes. And most criminals aren't going to stop and reload right there.
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