My P7M10 & M13. By far the easiest handguns to double tap accurately. Both are nearly indestructible.
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Boy....this is like a parent trying to pick their favorite child....
It's a toss-up between G17, Browning Hi-Power, USP45 and one of the 1911's
If I had to pick the rarest, I would say my Kimber LAPD SWAT.L.A. County
Mailed to LASD Hall of Justice: 6/27/2022 received:6/28
Check cashed: 8/22/2022
Livescan: 4/22/2023 DOJ 4/22 FBI 4/23 Firearms 4/26
Call for interview: 5/24/2023 Interview: 5/31/2023
PTT: 8/21/23 Training submitted 8/27/23
Call for pickup 10/12/23 Pickup: 11/8/23Comment
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Gold Cups not normally C&Rs
"Curio and Relic" or C&R is a Federal BATF term, and a gun usually must have been manufactured more than 50 years ago to qualify as a C&R gun. About 98% of all the Colt Gold Cups in existence were manufactured after 1957, and are not C&R guns.
Colt still manufactures the current "Trophy" version of the Gold Cup, and it was previously on the CA approved handgun list but I see that it no longer appears on that list. Previous versions of the Colt Gold Cup are not on the list, so a CA FFL cannot transfer them into the state:
CA approved handgun listComment
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A nice hooter feels better in my hand than any gun...especially one that has perfect "ergonomics"!!!!!!
I have many hand guns but my Sig P230 is probably my favorite...or is it the P226....or the P220...or....The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it
Originally posted by RazoEI don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.Comment
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I have many rare, unique, and bizarre one-of-a kind handguns. Some I have posted pics of here - some I have NOT posted pics of here.
However, the most valued/favorite? A Colt Police Positive that was owned by Eliot Ness while he was Public Safety Director of Cleveland, Ohio. It has real Colt mother-of-pearl grips. It's not in perfect condition at all, and if you saw it in a gun store without knowing it's provenance you probably wouldn't pay much more than $200 for it. It's value is not ascertainable, but I'll never part with it anyway, so therefore it has no price. I have better, more rare guns, but this one probably exudes the most unique in history, bearing the most significance, of any that I own.
As far as holding dear "first" handguns, it would be any one of my HK VP70Zs (I have 4, 2 in 9X21 which of only about 400 were made) but one in particular I still own was my first handgun. I have many memories of going to the range with my 2 older brothers, as they had each bought one at the same time. I learned handgun safety and shooting skills with that gun, taught by my older brothers. So we all had the same model handgun (among others), and would go out shooting them together on a regular basis, where back then, the "range" was often an open field with a steep and high hill behind it for a back stop, on our Uncle's farm. We could set up any targets and shoot in any fashion we desired! Now that one of those brothers is gone, those memories, and that VP70Z carry so much more in value than can ever be estimated. Maybe I'll be buried with it.
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Yes, GCNM's are listed as C&R's specifically by name by BATFE, along with many others that are less than 50 years old yet have been deemed interesting or special enough to qualify for the "curios" status of the "curios & relics".
CA DOJ specifically exempts federally-listed C&R items from the safe handgun requirement except in particular cases, of which GCNM's do not fall under. They still need to go through a -01 dealer. A -03 license would not suffice.
Although the number is small, GCNM's continue to come into the state to savvy collectors through knowledgeable dealers.
"Curio and Relic" or C&R is a Federal BATF term, and a gun usually must have been manufactured more than 50 years ago to qualify as a C&R gun. About 98% of all the Colt Gold Cups in existence were manufactured after 1957, and are not C&R guns.
Colt still manufactures the current "Trophy" version of the Gold Cup, and it was previously on the CA approved handgun list but I see that it no longer appears on that list. Previous versions of the Colt Gold Cup are not on the list, so a CA FFL cannot transfer them into the state:
CA approved handgun listComment
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maybe my first 1911 that I sold a glock to get the funds for..or maybe the p7m8. somedays I feel like my cz-75b is my best 9mm despite it only costing $398.
got a couple of good revolvers too, but I consider them to be a whole category unto themselves. I dunno... can't really say, but the 1911 or the cz-75 get shot a lot so I'll say those two. none of my handguns are older, but I do have my grandfathers 1920's era 22 rifle that I like better than any of the others.Comment
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Gold Cup and "National Match" are different guns
I believe we are speaking of two different guns. The original Colt National Match pistol was made from 1933 to 1941, then discontinued during WW2. The BATF list of C&R guns lists this gun, calling it "National Match" with no use of the term "Gold Cup":Yes, GCNM's are listed as C&R's specifically by name by BATFE, along with many others that are less than 50 years old yet have been deemed interesting or special enough to qualify for the "curios" status of the "curios & relics".
CA DOJ specifically exempts federally-listed C&R items from the safe handgun requirement except in particular cases, of which GCNM's do not fall under. They still need to go through a -01 dealer. A -03 license would not suffice.
Although the number is small, GCNM's continue to come into the state to savvy collectors through knowledgeable dealers.
BATF C&R list
These original National Match guns are quite rare and valuable.
In 1957 Colt introduced the Gold Cup target gun and used the term "National Match" with Gold Cup, to provide a link to the original gun. Over time the term National Match has been dropped from the Gold Cup, and the current model is called the Gold Cup Trophy. These Gold Cup guns are not listed on the BATF C&R list, and the oldest of them are just turning 50 at present. Here is a link to the history of these:
History of Colt Gold Cup and National Match pistols
So I would maintain that these Gold Cup pistols cannot be imported into CA via a CA gun dealer, since they are not on the approved list.Comment
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Favorite as collection: Browning Hi-Power, 1968 T-series with tangent sight.
I have not fire a shot out of this gun since I got it, and I seriously doubt if it has being fired.NRA certified RSO, Pistol/Rifle/Personal Protection Inside The Home instructor, Certified SIG/Glock pistol armorer.Comment
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I picked up a Delta Gold Cup with my first really big paycheck as an adult. Damn, I love that thing.....
A few years ago I bought a NIB 3rd Model Colt Match Target Woodsman. I can't bring myself to drop the hammer on it.
It's just waiting for the right situation, someday I'll find a Colt fan who has something that I NEED. Until then it sure is pretty.It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.Comment
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