Glock vs 1911, side by side comparison

[HighLander51]

locosway ,I haven't been able to find any information on the .45acp being more accurate than a 9x19. Do you have any information that would support your claim?

You got a long way to go kid. Since you get your information from the internet, rather than shooting experience, google up ballistic co-efficient of bullets.

Me? I started shooting NRA Bullseye in 1967, then action pistol with Col. Jeff Cooper in 1968, then NRA action pistol, then Bianchi cup, then IPSC, then USPSA, then 3 gun, then Steel Challenge, then IDPA.... I don't have any internet experience, only real shooting experience from burning about 1,000,000 rounds in 44 years in competition.

Have you shot your first competition yet? And to prove it for real, shoot your G17 at 50 yards and post your results...

No, you don't know nothing from shooting 20 rounds from a rental gun.

[xxINKxx]

I haven't been able to find any information on the .45acp being more accurate than a 9x19. Do you have any information that would support your claim?

Just gotta have faith....You know, like frog lube

[locosway]

locosway ,I haven't been able to find any information on the .45acp being more accurate than a 9x19. Do you have any information that would support your claim?

You got a long way to go kid. Since you get your information from the internet, rather than shooting experience, google up ballistic co-efficient of bullets.

Me? I started shooting NRA Bullseye in 1967, then action pistol with Col. Jeff Cooper in 1968, then NRA action pistol, then Bianchi cup, then IPSC, then USPSA, then 3 gun, then Steel Challenge, then IDPA.... I don't have any internet experience, only real shooting experience from burning about 1,000,000 rounds in 44 years in competition.

Have you shot your first competition yet? And to prove it for real, shoot your G17 at 50 yards and post your results...

No, you don't know nothing from shooting 20 rounds from a rental gun.

If you want to be rude, then you're more than welcome to start your own thread and make any claims you like. I asked you for supporting evidence, which you provided none other than your experience. If we look at the BC of the 9mm vs. the .45 we see that they're nearly identical. Outdoors, the .45 may be more accurate in a crosswind because of it's mass. However, the 9mm is far better at range give it has less drop.

Yes I've shot competitions, and I've taken classes. I've been shooting for 20 years, and I've shot my pistols at distance numerous times. Does that make me as much of an expert as you? No, but then again I never claimed to be an expert. I know you think I'm some young kid who just trolls the internet all day, but how about you stop assuming and start living in the real world?

Show me where the 9mm is less accurate than the .45. I've yet to see anyone produce a single document that suggests this.

[Stryprod]

This was a personal assessment, nothing more nothing less. Everyone is getting their panties all in a bunch.

Facts remain that every situation and person is different and you should choose the firearm that best suits the shooter and the environment they anticipate using a firearm in.

Let’s assume your environment is HD (home defense). In this case, you want to shoot the least amount of bullets, with the best placement, with the most power.

Least amount of bullets:
It's my understanding that the average HD scenario is approx 3 shots. Let’s say I am wrong and double that to 6 shots. The lowest denominator, which is the 1911, will still work just fine with at least 7+1 if not more.

Best placement:
Completely subjective to the shooter, use what works best for you. Whether a 1911, glock, shotgun, or grenade... go for it but just train!!!

Most power:
Small indifferent factors aside, the 45 1911 wins, but the fact remains that the 9mm is way more than capable. I would trust my life with a 9mm just as much as a 45.

Conclusion? You are good to go with either gun, so use the one that allows you the best shot placement.

[Stryprod]

If you think capacity doesn't matter, then why have 30 round AR mags

OP, why are you comparing an AR capacity and design to a semi-auto?

Two different tools meant for two different kinds of engagement... not even in the same park.

[locosway]

OP, why are you comparing an AR capacity and design to a semi-auto?

Two different tools meant for two different kinds of engagement... not even in the same park.

I wasn't comparing handguns to rifles, I was going off topic to explain that having more rounds is a benefit and not a loss.

[KandyRedCoi]

^i will have to agree, generally speaking the more bullets is the better...i have yet to see, find, read and/or watch a scenario when having extra ammo is a bad thing

like another poster said this was someones personal experience ymmv share your thoughts but why attack the OP

keep on shooting!

[Fishslayer]

So we're comparing Glocks to 1911's now? Seriously?

7 rounds for your 1911? I know its not much but all of my 1911's have 8 and 10 round magazines (usually mec-gar, I find they work the best for my 1911's). I have a few old 7 round army surplus mags for my colt but that is it.

Generally 7 round mags are more reliable & the springs last longer.

If ya can't gitter done with 7 or 14 rounds of .45ACP then Plan B better involve a 12GA.

[redcliff]

I wasn't comparing handguns to rifles, I was going off topic to explain that having more rounds is a benefit and not a loss.

Larger gas tanks in vehicles are an advantage too, but I don't use that as my selection criteria.

The 1911 has a big enough gas tank for me and I like the ride.

[chaseface]

18 rds of 9mm in a 1911 package


although you can't put a 33 rd mag in it like the glock 17, and it costs twice as much. but it is a looker.

btw, good report. i would have gotten a glock 21 based on reliability reputation alone, but i couldn't get over that grip angle so i ended up dros'n a mp45 earlier this week.

What make and model is this? Is it California legal?

Edit: I didn't mean legal, I meant is it on the roster?

[jdg30]

Wow, this thread really got off track from the original intent of doing a comparison between two totally different guns. I don't see why so many people are getting upset because someone has a different opinion about a certain gun than someone else does.

I have Glocks, revolvers and one 1911. They all shoot different and I like all of them so much that I couldn't choose my favorite between them, but I know I would feel confident with any of them if I ever have to use one in self defense.

So who cares if someone says that one has advantages over the other. Everyone has opinions and if someone feels a certain way, it doesn't mean everyone else has to feel the same way also. Why attack the OP because he made some observations and then posted here to share with everyone else?

[c3 rolling]

You cant take two different guns to the range and say one is more accurate than the other. You have to dedicate yourself to one platform with A LOT of practice and then decide. The 1911 is easier to shoot accurately with no practice, not just due to the tight tolerances but the light single action trigger. Comparing look, build, and feel of two different hand guns is one thing but comparing firing accuracy in human hands is a waste of time. I shoot 99% of the time with Glocks but I shoot bullseye better with a 1911. Why? because I need more practice. Cool read either way

[Fishslayer]

If we look at the BC of the 9mm vs. the .45 we see that they're nearly identical. Outdoors, the .45 may be more accurate in a crosswind because of it's mass.

I don't know crap about BC but the first time I touched a Glock it was a friend's M19. It tore a ragged hole out of the black with commercial ammo at about 10-15 yds. It had better sights & a worked trigger, but still.

I was pretty astounded at the gun itself and the accuracy of the cartridge. Like most, I'd never considered the 9mm to be a bullseye "target" round.

The bad part is since I bought my wife a nine I've been trying to come up with a load that is that accurate. Not yet, but getting there.

[jeep7081]

I got a 4506 and thought the same. While it is not my go to weapon. It does only carry 8rds. I purchased a 10rd mag for $16 each (got two). Do I feel better, an extra 2 rds? I do. Now, my go to weapon also has a 10rd mag. CA legal.

Here is my thought, if you go through 10rds, and have loaded another magazine, you BETTER be going for your rifle to end that gun fight while dialing 911 and dropping the phone, so back up will come. The 911 dispatcher will hear the gun fire. Remember, the longer you stay in that gun fight, the % of you ALSO getting hit rises.

So, grab your 1911 with 7rds (or more with extended mag), throw an extra mag in your pocket. Again, going through 14rds, you BETTER be looking for an out.

Remember, California UNLIKE other states DOESN'T have "Castle Doctrine". Which is a little scary. Recently, there were two people arrested and charged with attempted murder. Suspect broke into their house (two different people), one I remember the story, suspect went for the TV. Home owner, walked down stairs, confronted suspect. The home owner ended up firing a few rounds, and hit the suspect. Dropped him. Home owner is in jail for attempted murder! DA filed the charges. Said suspect was not a threat as the suspect had a TV in his hand. Home owner had a gun, he could have retreated and called 911 and waited for police to arrive. So, remember, with everyone wanting to try out their toys when they hear a sound. BE SMART!

Just my $.02

[Fishslayer]

I got a 4506 and thought the same. While it is not my go to weapon. It does only carry 8rds. I purchased a 10rd mag for $16 each (got two). Do I feel better, an extra 2 rds? I do. Now, my go to weapon also has a 10rd mag. CA legal.

With a 4506 when ya run out of ammo you can just beat 'em to death with it.