Would you paid $700 for a USP 9c slightly used & clean, with 2 mags? This would be my first H&K..your thoughts? Thanks.
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Just bought my full size USP45 from a Calgunner for $680. 400 rounds through it, 2 10rnd mags, and a Serpa holster. Though, I didn't get the original box so I had to buy another one.Comment
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Great gun. Magazines are really expensive. The factory HK match trigger won't drop right into a compact model though. Shoots really soft. Boringly reliable. Never saw a USP malf from limp wristing. Depending on the variant, you can carry it cocked and locked like a 1911. Worth every penny.While we're here arguing about the latest high tech running shoes, there's some Kenyan out there running barefoot. Guess who's gonna win the marathon?Comment
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The Usp 40 i had was really tight and felt solid in my hands. Its the only pistol i couldn't shoot well, but the sights could have been off. I sold it after shooting it once. Id like to give a compact the chance one of these days.
WTT: Federal hydrashock 40s&w JHP's for 9mm fmj's locally
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I used to own the USP40c with V1 trigger pack and really liked it. It was not without its quirks, but no gun is a 100% perfect. The magazine release is a bit wierd, and needed two fingers to be 100% reliable, but other than that I was pleased. The finish was not as good as on a Glock and wore off fairly quickly. Showed 100x the holster wear. I carried mine cocked and locked, and every once in a while I would over do it when flipping off the safety and end up deckocking the gun and having to use the DA pull...which was annoying. All that said, however, the things I liked out were too numerous to mention. The SA trigger pull was amazing, as was the reset. It pointed well, felt great in my hand, and was an utter joy to shoot (except when I ended up accidentally decocking it). If I didn't need to carry it, and wanted another USP I would go with the full size USP in 9mm or 45ACP. Not a fan of 40S&W anymore.
Of all the guns I have owned, and I have owned a few the USP ranks in the top three. Right behind the Glock, and 1911. Of course I am always on the hunt for something better.
The price sounds about right. If you look on Gunbroker you will they hover around there for used ones. Guns always end up costing us more than we envision they will.Last edited by tacticalcity; 06-07-2011, 2:01 PM.Comment
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Here's a lil bit of USP info...
The HK USP is probably the most thoroughly tested pistol ever produced. The testing process of the USP, already extreme in exceeding strict NATO AC-225 Military Specification Standards, in many ways mirrors the regimen the HK SOCOM pistol was subjected to .
The barrel of the USP is cold-hammer forged from high-grade chromium steel, the same type of steel used in cannon barrels. During testing, a bullet was deliberately lodged in a USP barrel. Another cartridge was then fired into the obstructing bullet. The second bullet cleared the barrel, resulting in a barely noticeable bulge. The pistol was then fired for accuracy and the resulting group measured less than 2.5 inches at 25 meters.
Other less destructive tests reveal much about USP reliability and durability. Function testing a wide selection of ammunition types, one test gun fired more than 10,000 rounds without a single malfunction. That means no stove-pipes, no failures to feed o r eject; no jams! Endurance firings of test samples has passed 20,000 rounds of high performance .40 S&W ammo without any parts failures. Sever temperature tests required the USP to be frozen at -44 degrees F (-42 degrees C) and then fired, frozen again a nd quickly heated to 153 degrees F (67 degrees C), and then fired again. These temperature spectrum tests were continually repeated, and with no adverse effects on the USP.
Demanding NATO Mil-Spec mud and rain tests were conducted, again with the USP passing without difficulty. Water immersion and salt spray also presented no problems to the USP. Outside metal surfaces of the USP are covered with an extremely hard nitro-gas carburized and black oxidized finish.
All internal metal parts, including springs, are coated with a special Dow-Corning process that reduces friction and wear. Both the internal and external finishes have proved to be especially corrosion resistant. For more than two years, German Navy comba t divers have used the same process on weapons parts without any signs of rust.
Safety testing exceeded the ANSI/SAAMI requirements adopted in May 1990. These included dropping a USP with a primed cartridge and decocked hammer on a variety of surfaces without discharging. The USP easily surpassed these commercial requirements, as wel l as German police tests, including repeated drop tests from six feet, hammer first, onto a steel backed concrete slab. Proof round firing resulted in no cracks, deformations, or increase in head space. attempts to fire the USP pistol with an unlocked bre ech proved impossible.
The HK recoil reduction system (patent pending), a mechanical dual spring buffering device, is another feature common to the USP and the HK SOCOM pistol. During the USP testing phase, HK engineers discovered this innovative unit reduces the peak force act ing on the USP grip to less than 300 Newtons (66 pounds). Peak force shock on competing .40 caliber polymer and metal framed pistols climbed to more than 5000 Newtons (1102 pounds).
The primary benefit of low peak shock is a decrease in wear and tear on pistol components. Reduction in peak shock forces also contributes to softer recoil for the shooter, although these "felt recoil" values are much more subjective.
Excerpted from the 1993 Edition of Sentinel Magazine.
Testing Data
Information provided by HK, Incorporated
Tolerance Inspection Trigger Pull, firing pin energy and
protrusion, headspace, caliber,
velocities, etc.
Safety Inspection Controls and safeties
Proof firing (2 Winchester DP40 proof
rounds)
Targeting Zeroing (25 meters, POA/POI)
Ammunition compatibility
More than 85,000 rounds fired thus
far during testing of the USP40
Accuracy (USP40, 10 shots, 25 meters)
Most accurate (3.2 - 3.9 in.)
Reliability/functional test 20,000 round reliability test
Fired in various attitudes, checked
every 1,000 rounds for cracked or
broken parts and for accuracy.
slide manually cycled 1,000 times
after each 10,000 rounds fired.
No normal wear detected in less than
5,100 rounds
USP40 and USP9 perfect record through
first half of the test. Second half
of test ongoing at time of writing
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No The Magazines Are NOT expensive. www.cdnninvestments.com has them for $19.99 EACHGreat gun. Magazines are really expensive. The factory HK match trigger won't drop right into a compact model though. Shoots really soft. Boringly reliable. Never saw a USP malf from limp wristing. Depending on the variant, you can carry it cocked and locked like a 1911. Worth every penny.sigpic "Are You Listening to Me? Put that Hand on me again, And you won't get it back." ELI (Denzel Washington) "The Book Of Eli"Comment
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