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  • #31
    jtmkinsd
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 2352

    Wasn't trying to be argumentative...I said several times that some shops may require extra paperwork because they're overly cautious and have the "more is better" attitude. I apologize if something I posted struck you in an argumentative tone...that was not my intent.

    I like to keep things as simple as I possibly can...and the less paperwork I have to hang on to for 20 years, the better. And if I did things based on "what could happen", every transaction would take an hour, and generate a phone book size stack of paper.
    Originally posted by orangeglo
    Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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    • #32
      halifax
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4440

      Originally posted by jtmkinsd
      Wasn't trying to be argumentative...I said several times that some shops may require extra paperwork because they're overly cautious and have the "more is better" attitude. I apologize if something I posted struck you in an argumentative tone...that was not my intent.

      I like to keep things as simple as I possibly can...and the less paperwork I have to hang on to for 20 years, the better. And if I did things based on "what could happen", every transaction would take an hour, and generate a phone book size stack of paper.
      And probably get you "outed" here on CGN as one of those "don't know anything about the law" dealers that the membership needs to boycot.

      Jim


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      • #33
        LBDamned
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 19040

        Originally posted by jtmkinsd
        Wasn't trying to be argumentative...I said several times that some shops may require extra paperwork because they're overly cautious and have the "more is better" attitude. I apologize if something I posted struck you in an argumentative tone...that was not my intent.

        I like to keep things as simple as I possibly can...and the less paperwork I have to hang on to for 20 years, the better. And if I did things based on "what could happen", every transaction would take an hour, and generate a phone book size stack of paper.
        I hear ya - I dont like mega files either - and paper-work for the sake of regulations often are a waste of everyone's time (but employs government auditors)...

        I'm not sure how a second document with physical residence significantly adds to the time or size - but I get it, you dont like it... I've always been required to provide it and it takes me way more time to happen than dealer (and trust me, I don't like it either)...

        Simple is good until you realize an extra step could have saved a boatload of headache and problems... but we all conduct business the way we feel is best.
        "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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        • #34
          LBDamned
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 19040

          Originally posted by halifax
          And probably get you "outed" here on CGN as one of those "don't know anything about the law" dealers that the membership needs to boycot.

          ooopsie.... wut
          "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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          • #35
            jtmkinsd
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 2352

            Originally posted by halifax
            And probably get you "outed" here on CGN as one of those "don't know anything about the law" dealers that the membership needs to boycot.

            Yup...lol...in a heartbeat.
            Originally posted by orangeglo
            Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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            • #36
              jtmkinsd
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 2352

              Originally posted by f9dak9
              My understanding is your DL has to have your current home address, in addition to a second form of home address confirmation like a car registration and of course your HSC
              For what it's worth...it does not. You must have a valid CA DL/ID. Having a valid DL/ID has nothing to do with the address that is on the face of it. You can write your current address on the back...and it is still valid.
              Originally posted by orangeglo
              Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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              • #37
                heavyzevy
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 32

                Originally posted by knucklehead
                Lease will work as long as it matches your DL. Some stores might want it to be notorized also. That's what I have been using for awhile.

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                I don't have my own lease. I live with my parents so I have no utility bill or car in my name... from what I understand I can sign a lease with them for pennies a month for one of their rooms right? Would this lease agreement to the job for me?
                Does anyone know if Oak Tree gun in Newhall needs it notorized? Anyone has ever done this before?

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                • #38
                  knucklehead
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 458

                  That's what I did. Me an my girlfriend rent a house from my dad. I have nothing in my name mind you. So the dude at the gun shop told me to get a lease afreament from staples an fill it out. I did an that is what I have been using for sometime now. Make sure to fill it out An have your dad/mom sign as landlord also.


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                  • #39
                    heavyzevy
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32

                    Originally posted by knucklehead
                    That's what I did. Me an my girlfriend rent a house from my dad. I have nothing in my name mind you. So the dude at the gun shop told me to get a lease afreament from staples an fill it out.
                    Does it need to be from staples? Would this do???


                    I have been looking but can't seem to find any official form.

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                    • #40
                      SixPointEight
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 3788

                      It doesn't have to be done at staples, but draw up something and have it notarized. Many dealers require a lease like that to be notarized to accept it.

                      As to the OP, your proof of residency must match what's on the 4473, and in the DROS system, NOT your ID. In fact, what's on the ID doesn't matter, because if it's used as an ID, it CAN'T be used as proof of residency. That makes me wonder though, if someone has a CA id card, and a CDL, can one of them be an ID and the other a proof of residency?

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                      • #41
                        heavyzevy
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32

                        So that link should be fine? Seems so weird to me that they wouldn't except my passport, or bank statements, but they would except a form I print off the web and have "rent" from my parents for $.50 a month...

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                        • #42
                          SixPointEight
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 3788

                          Originally posted by heavyzevy
                          So that link should be fine? Seems so weird to me that they wouldn't except my passport, or bank statements, but they would except a form I print off the web and have "rent" from my parents for $.50 a month...
                          If it's notarized, has your name, physical address, and an expiration date, it's good. That's our general rule of thumb.

                          The caveat being it must be something physically tied to a place. Gas, electric, water, rent, etc. Your $0.50 lease is technically a legally binding rental agreement. The fact that it's between you and your parents, and for pennies a month is irrelevant.

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                          • #43
                            heavyzevy
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32

                            Originally posted by JT1989
                            Your $0.50 lease is technically a legally binding rental agreement.
                            Damn, this thing is gonna cost me! I hope my parents don't use this to somehow use this to legally evict me

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