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  • #16
    furfam4
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 229

    Originally posted by redcliff
    The fact that you can retract the slide with the pistol upside down and have the cartridge fall out makes me think the cartridge rim is in front of the extractor instead of feeding up between the extractor hook and breach face.
    After reading this again I don't think I properly explained problem 2.

    This jam was not after the last spent casing. It would jam before being able to fire the last bullet. So I was getting 1 less shot everytime it jammed. The bullet was in the chamber but the slide would not progress all the way forward. I was on why not. Was the ejection port catching on the barrel somehow?


    I was looking at the link for extractor tuning tips and can tell I'm going to reread that about a zillion times to try and figure out what the heck their talking about. I guess it comes with being GREEN

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    • #17
      MongooseV8
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 4426

      I had the same problem with my RIA GI. Some rounds would feed half way into the chamber and the slide didnt fully close. My problem was the ammo I was using didnt have enough of a taper crimp to fit into the tight chamber.

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      • #18
        Bill Steele
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 5028

        Exceptional shooting for a newcomer. I see a lot of first timers at the range and many have trouble keeping it on the paper at 7 yds.

        You will get the failures diagnosed, just stick with it. I'd say you are a natural.
        When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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        • #19
          blood ()f the Lamb
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 28

          Originally posted by Bill Steele
          Exceptional shooting for a newcomer. I see a lot of first timers at the range and many have trouble keeping it on the paper at 7 yds.

          You will get the failures diagnosed, just stick with it. I'd say you are a natural.

          Thank you. I was pretty happy. It probably took me 3 x as long as most people I will say I wasn't just popping rounds off. I was taking my time. My goal is to be accurate
          Last edited by blood ()f the Lamb; 05-01-2011, 1:18 PM.

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          • #20
            furfam4
            Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 229

            ^^^^ that last post was me btw. I forgot my password when I was at work one day and created a new ID on my phone.

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            • #21
              biker777
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1408

              Sorry you are having some issues with your new Match, I took mine out a ran a few hundred rds. through it and it was as sweet as it could be..I have 4 Act Mags ( same as come with the RIA) and every one fed perfect, I shot JHP, FMJ, of all brands and loads.. (since I have several other 45's I have lots of diff. ammo..)

              anyway I was lucky because mine was as accurate as it could be (with me shooting) and all the mags fed everything perfectly..
              no worries at all..

              yours is just in need of a little more breaking in , it will get better

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              • #22
                GWbiker
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 733

                I have two RIA GI spec in .45acp. My suggestion for your new RIA, clean and light lube with light grade Slide Glide or TRW25b GREASE, slide and frame rails, plus both inside and outside barrel bushing.

                Your RIA is still tight and needs break in.

                Light weight grease instead of oil on frame/slide areas.
                "If 5% of Ducks could shoot back, would you go Duck hunting?"

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                • #23
                  Ultimate
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 593

                  #1 sounds like the round was diving because of the weak spring. On a mag the spring will be at its weakest on the last round since all the tension of additional rounds isn't there.

                  #2 sounds like the extractor was not grabbing the round which could be a side effect of #1 since the round is supposed to slide into the extractor groove. If the round dives into the feed ramp the rim will be lifted and it will not slide under the ejector groove.

                  A quick on the moment correction to fire the round would be to keep ur finger out of the trigger guard and smack the rear of the slide which would cause the extractor to go over the round.

                  Fix #1 and sounds like you will be good to go!

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                  • #24
                    k1dude
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2009
                    • 15816

                    Perhaps the Match has tighter tolerances than the Tactical. If so, it probably needs some breaking in before it becomes 100% reliable.

                    Every 1911 is an individual. Some like certain mags and hate other mags. My Tactical works flawlessly with ACT, MEC-GAR, and McCormick mags. But it absolutely HATES Wilson mags. What works for mine might not work with someone else's. Sometimes you just have to figure out which mags your individual weapon likes.
                    "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

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                    • #25
                      furfam4
                      Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 229

                      i looked at the extractor tune up link again, and I've gotta say it over my head.

                      My ACT mag did seem to work far better than the CM. I agree that it could be the spring, but am also wondering if it had something to do with the follower? The ACT mag's follower cannot be manipulated forward while at the top however the CM can. Do you think this may have happened? If the CM follower was slighty forward out the mag at the top (last round) could that cause the last bullet to misfeed or cause the slide to lock up on something not allowing it to go forward?

                      I'm going to the range tomorrow so I'll try some of the advice given here.

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                      • #26
                        Ultimate
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 593

                        Originally posted by furfam4
                        i looked at the extractor tune up link again, and I've gotta say it over my head.

                        My ACT mag did seem to work far better than the CM. I agree that it could be the spring, but am also wondering if it had something to do with the follower? The ACT mag's follower cannot be manipulated forward while at the top however the CM can. Do you think this may have happened? If the CM follower was slighty forward out the mag at the top (last round) could that cause the last bullet to misfeed or cause the slide to lock up on something not allowing it to go forward?

                        I'm going to the range tomorrow so I'll try some of the advice given here.
                        Yes that is exactly what i said is probably happening. The round is diving.

                        The weak magazine spring coupled with a tilting follower in a round with a considerable weight on its nose , .45 ACP.

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                        • #27
                          furfam4
                          Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 229

                          Originally posted by Ultimate
                          Yes that is exactly what i said is probably happening. The round is diving.

                          The weak magazine spring coupled with a tilting follower in a round with a considerable weight on its nose , .45 ACP.

                          so defected mag right?


                          can you return mags?

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                          • #28
                            supertrooper
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 624

                            RIAs and most other 1911s need a break-in of a few hundred rounds. the round nose diving into the feed ramp usually goes away after break-in and polishing the feed ramp. i hate the factory mags and only use wilson. the follower in chip mags would slid forward after the last round and get stuck on the feed ramp and be a PITA to remove. the got dots on the top of the slide are from the brass hitting it as its being ejected.
                            A SWAT Monkey is a powerful psychological tool. Imagine you are a criminal hiding in a closet and you hear "Release the monkey!" You would shudder.

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                            • #29
                              Phat Man Mike
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 11

                              I'd clean the weapon really good and read how to tune the extractor. I use lucas oil on my RIA to the point that it's almost dripping off the side of the slide. some hoppes will take the marks off the slide with some elbow grease used. nice shooting too. enjoy and remember to shoot often and take plenty of ammo.

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                              • #30
                                furfam4
                                Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 229

                                So 2nd time to the range today. Shot about 200 rounds with not one problem. And I gotta say I LOVE this gun! I read somewhere to use 3X5 cards instead of wasting $ on targets and I had a bunch left over from paramedic school so that is what I used today at 5yd, 7yd, 10yd, 11yd.[IMG][/IMG]

                                I gotta say either this thing is REALLY accurate or I'm a decent rookie shooter. I'm pretty stoked.

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