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  • #31
    avidone
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 946

    Originally posted by ts
    uhm???
    Not claiming they are the best thing since sliced bread or anything, but mine seems to help a bit to tame the recoil.

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    • #32
      PLINK
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 1773

      Originally posted by proraptor
      What kind of magwells are you guys using?

      Those are some sweet glocks!
      I have this one. It is made of brass.

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      • #33
        CSDGuy
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 3763

        My own setup is a G23 that is completely stock except for 2 differences. I installed a the Glock 3.5# connector with a Glock NY-1 spring. This combination actually makes the trigger pull a little bit HIGHER than with a stock 5# setup. I like this setup a lot. The major difference with this setup is that the reset is much more distinct than with the stock 5# spring and the 3.5# connector.

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        • #34
          Southbay
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 890

          I have several Glock’s, all stock except two I keep for security in my bedroom, one each for my girlfriend and I. Both have M3 lights and Crimson Tracer lasers. With this combo I can see what I am shooting at and target acquisition is much faster. We all know we should not shoot what we cannot see, the moment you turn on your bedroom light your eyes need to adjust for a second then you need to get the front sight with eyes that have just been open on your intruder. I have tested my response time by setting my alarm for 3am with and without the M3 lights and Crimson Tracer lasers installed (unloaded gun) and there is no comparison I am much faster with.

          Glock’s I use at the range are stock, never had a problem with them, one has many thousands of rounds put thru it, I have lost count.
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          • #35
            ts
            Banned
            • Apr 2006
            • 1232

            So basally a NY trigger (I do not know which one, please chime in - I want to stay far away from the term 'hair trigger') and the Glock Factory 3.5# connector is all I should get internally?

            I would really like to get a stainless steel barrel that is made for self defense. I like the looks - I saw one guy who polished his, but that takes away from all the reliability of the weapon. Anyone have any suggestions?

            Thanks guys!

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            • #36
              CSDGuy
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 3763

              If you go with a 3.5# connector, do NOT use the NY-2 spring. Nobody I've ever talked to even considers that combination. Apparently it is not a good combination for a Glock.

              If you're going for reliability in the Glock, stay with stock parts. They work pretty well. Aftermarket barrels would be fine for target practice or shooting lead reloads, but unless your stock barrel is not very accurate out of the box, don't bother with the expense of an aftermarket barrel in a SD gun.

              Others may say different, but that's my two bits.

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              • #37
                MaceWindu
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1220

                Glock Modifications
                ...save for night sights...are not needed.


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                • #38
                  Teletiger7
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2720

                  Every mod you just mentioned is a waste of money for a home defense gun. Except for the night sights. Everything else is pointless IMO. Use the money on ammo, mags, and ,more ammo and mags. If you wanna spend alot of money modifying a pistol buy a 1911. BTW the lasermax is a huge waste of money since I've seen posts on GT about how they may affect reliability.

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                  • #39
                    ts
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 1232

                    Originally posted by Teletiger7
                    Every mod you just mentioned is a waste of money for a home defense gun. Except for the night sights. Everything else is pointless IMO. Use the money on ammo, mags, and ,more ammo and mags. If you wanna spend alot of money modifying a pistol buy a 1911. BTW the lasermax is a huge waste of money since I've seen posts on GT about how they may affect reliability.
                    Well I would really like to smooth out the trigger. I know there is a NY1 and NY2 trigger. And I would think a factory Glock connector at 3.5 would help as well without reducing reliability.

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                    • #40
                      desertram800
                      Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 265

                      personally, unless it's a range gun, I wouldn't mess with the trigger at all. Practice, and put LOTS of rounds downrange, and learn the trigger. Personally, for a carry type weapon, especially one for CCW, I'd even like a heavier trigger, I wish that they offered the 8lb trigger factory from Glock. Night sights are a must! Also, the whole problem with the lasermax units was the soft plastic that they used for the endcap. The newer units have the upgraded part on it already, so they claim to be much more durable. Not necessary, but lasers have proven themselves useful! As far as the "sandpaper" grips, they are great on a range only gun, but for CCW they tend to grab onto your shirt and promote printing. I personally dremel the trigger guard hook off, and do the under triggerguard treatment. No titanium stikers or anything like that, unless you're just looking for the bling bling or bragging rights.
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                      • #41
                        cgmoe
                        Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 316

                        desertram800,

                        You can get factory Glock 5lb and 8lb connectors from CDNN for $3
                        I have a Glock 5lb connector that I modified that feels better than the factory Glock 3.5lb connector, but that's another story.

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                        • #42
                          bwiese
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 27621

                          TS,

                          Don't screw with the gun much; there's no need to "Tapco-engineer" this gun.

                          The only 'valid' thing I see on your list is perhaps the night sights and perhaps the Jentraplug (mostly because it's cheap, decorative and won't do any harm).

                          With a microGlock you would not see any appreciable accuracy difference by changing from stock barrel to a Bar-Sto or KKM...

                          In any case, (please don't take this wrong) I don't think you're a precision shooter, and likely can't shoot well enough to notice the difference - and any such difference would require a (1) really good trigger not CCW-suitable, and (2) match ammo. Also, such precision shooting is not necessary or even likely achievable in a CCW/ defensive situation, where you're operating in the 10 yard area and in a stressful situation.

                          The only reason to move from a stock Glock barrel would be if you're shooting lead ammo (i.e., cheap home reloads), and you need a round bore (instead of the polygonal ones Glocks and HKs use, which are not recommended for such shooting as lead deposits can lead to overpressure situations).

                          Same thing with the titanium firing pin stuff. Lock time is only a small portion of accuracy and this is a belly gun, not a 6"-barreled match gun. A lighter firing pin may not do well on hard military primers if you're shooting milsurp 9mm. Leave well enough alone.

                          I think a compact gun such as this should be left with a 5lb disconnector. (The 8+ lb "NY trigger" is too much.) You simply don't need a 3.5lb trigger for effective CCW/defensive use, esp on a Glock. If you require a different trigger for such a gun, I'd then say move away from a Glock.

                          Glocks are a bit like ARs for accessories - there's someone out there that will sell you anything to "fix" something. IMHO, most of the things you've outlined fall into the not-necessary category or into the "forward pistol grip on an AR" category.

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                          • #43
                            CWM4A1
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1135

                            If you are working on CCW, it depends on what modification your county allow you to do. I am in OC and I am sure of that:

                            1. Forget 3.5lb trigger, OCSD need minimum of 4lb to pass. I am going to list my Kimber Gold Combat and I have a stock 3.5lb trigger from factory which I need to modify. Not sure if other county would require the same. Better check first.

                            2. Laser is not allowed by OCSD. Other county might be okay. As others said, laser will not help you as far as accuracy goes.
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                            • #44
                              LAK Supply
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 2892

                              The 3.5 lb trigger generally gives a real-world pull of 4.5-5 lbs. As well, a laser can be a valuable tool for practice..... it's a big help when learning how to point-shoot your weapon, which is what you want to do in a high-stress situation. As for daily carry..... I wouldn't want a laser in mine...... nor do I need one.


                              Originally posted by CWM4A1
                              If you are working on CCW, it depends on what modification your county allow you to do. I am in OC and I am sure of that:

                              1. Forget 3.5lb trigger, OCSD need minimum of 4lb to pass. I am going to list my Kimber Gold Combat and I have a stock 3.5lb trigger from factory which I need to modify. Not sure if other county would require the same. Better check first.

                              2. Laser is not allowed by OCSD. Other county might be okay. As others said, laser will not help you as far as accuracy goes.
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                              • #45
                                DrjonesUSA
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 4701

                                Originally posted by ts
                                There are some things I would like to change on the Glock though, many people say that if you mess with a Glock it will reduce its reliability. I agree with that statement on some modifications, but on others I am questionable.
                                Yes, in general the simpler you keep it, the better.


                                Lasermax Internal Laser System - I view lasers as a secondary sight, just in case. I purchased a subcompact so if I do not get this laser - I will not get any other because of bulk. I have heard bad reviews about the Lasermax, but I have also heard that LaserMax has slightly improved it making it just as reliable.
                                I have zero experience with these so I won't comment, but I question their utility. Your money would probably be better spent on range time & ammo.

                                Trigger Job with 3.5lb Connector - I would really like to improve the trigger on my Glock with out reducing reliability. (How many pounds would you suggest for a self defense gun? Maybe 5-8lbs?)
                                Should not have any effect on reliability, as far as weight, whatever you are comfortable with & most accurate with.


                                Titanium Safety Plungers - To also improve the trigger and prevent corrosion.
                                Waste of money unless you are going to be diving with your Glock & using it underwater. I've never heard of one of these rusting.


                                Titanium Striker - To improve accuracy and prevent corrosion.
                                I fail to see how the striker could improve accuracy. See above for my comments re: corrosion.

                                I'm not sure if Glock internals are treated in any way, but I've NEVER heard of Glock internals rusting.


                                An Aluminum Trigger - I have shot a Glock with one and liked it very much.
                                Never heard of it. Can you provide a link? I'm curious.
                                This also should not affect reliability at all. If it floats your boat.....


                                Jentra Plug
                                - To keep dirt and such out of the mag well and make inserting a new magazine easier.
                                Again, a waste of money. Many people have cracked their frames because of these plugs, though.

                                Night Sights - Do not know what kind - who makes the best?
                                You absolutely SHOULD buy & install these on any carry/defense weapon, a MUCH better use of funds than anything else on your list.

                                Bar-Sto Barrel - Better accuracy and I like the way the stainless steel looks
                                I doubt the average shooter will notice much of a difference in accuracy from a mere barrel change on a Glock. In fact, I highly doubt it.

                                I think this is a waste of money that would be better spent on training, range time & ammo.


                                As for accuracy I know may of you will say, "get more range time" as the solution. I do try to get as much range time as I can but at the same time - I would like to have to most accurate pistol I can use to protect my self and family.

                                If it is ultimate accuracy you are after, get a high-end 1911.

                                Edit: This just came into mind - Titanium is a soft metal, thus wear faster possibly. NEED THE HELP OF THE CALGUN WISE MEN!
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