Is there such a gun?

[Cokebottle]

This may be out of left field and sound really weird too but does anyone make a DA/SA, with an external hammer that has a safety and a decocker? Does that make sense? haha. Here's the thing. I like hammered guns and I love DA/SA. But I'd also like the ability to carry in SA mode with a safety engaged while still having a decocker. Do any safeties have a safe mode and then if you engage it more a decocking mode? If not, what's the closest I could eventually get? Thanks

Beretta 92, 96, M9, Colt Double Eagle.... there's a lot.

However, you aren't going to get one of your qualifications....
When carrying in SA mode, engaging the safety de-cocks, so releasing the safety puts you into DA mode.

I've never seen one that doesn't operate like that.

The 1911 is SA only and was designed to be carried cocked and with the safety engaged. The gun can be safely decocked by simply putting your thumb in front of the hammer and pulling the trigger. Release the trigger, then pull your thumb out, and the hammer will go to half-cock. At that point, the safety can't be engaged, but the gun is "Safe" since the trigger won't release the hammer, and if something snags the hammer and pulls it back, it will still only fall to half-cock.
But the 1911 has no DA mode.

[DesertGunner]

Just the USPs or do any other HKs have them? I could (crossing fingers) be going into the Border Patrol in the near future pending my background investigation so I would be carrying the HK P2000.

P2000 does not have a decocker.

[ojisan]

Taurus PT92
Decocker, fire, safe on a frame mounted lever.
Cocked and locked works too.

[SixtyDashOne]

P2000 does not have a decocker.

The V3 variant has a decocker. Now whether border patrol issues V3 or an LEM variant, I don't know.

[Brd_Hntr]

The CZ75 does not have a decocker. The safety has only two positions: up (locked) and down (fire). Can be carried in condition 1, but doesn't have a grip safety.

[Packy14]

I saw a study somewhere sometime that showed that in many cases a CCW was better off being loaded mag none in the chamber because if a BG gets your weapon, they 99% aren't gonna rack the slide to shoot you with it, giving you a couple seconds to react as they are confused why it didn't fire. Obviously you never want the BG to get your weapon, but if they did, you're toast. Also, it prevents accidental discharge. To me it would depend on the weapon and situation as to whether I'd roll loaded or none in chamber.... but if it was a striker fired gun like a Glock I'd lean to none in the chamber, if it was DA/SA I'd lean to loaded. If it was SHTF situation, loaded no matter what. I prefer Sigs personally, so I don't even own a handgun with a safety (actually, my buckmark does, but I don't count that as a real gun).

[Cokebottle]

I saw a study somewhere sometime that showed that in many cases a CCW was better off being loaded mag none in the chamber because if a BG gets your weapon, they 99% aren't gonna rack the slide to shoot you with it, giving you a couple seconds to react as they are confused why it didn't fire. Obviously you never want the BG to get your weapon, but if they did, you're toast. Also, it prevents accidental discharge. To me it would depend on the weapon and situation as to whether I'd roll loaded or none in chamber.... but if it was a striker fired gun like a Glock I'd lean to none in the chamber, if it was DA/SA I'd lean to loaded. If it was SHTF situation, loaded no matter what. I prefer Sigs personally, so I don't even own a handgun with a safety (actually, my buckmark does, but I don't count that as a real gun).

Holstered and chambered, if someone is coming at you with a knife and is at 20ft or less, you are going to get cut.

If it's not chambered and you need to rack the slide, move that distance out to 40ft.

[Sam]

I saw a study somewhere sometime that showed that in many cases a CCW was better off being loaded mag none in the chamber because if a BG gets your weapon, they 99% aren't gonna rack the slide to shoot you with it, giving you a couple seconds to react as they are confused why it didn't fire. Obviously you never want the BG to get your weapon, but if they did, you're toast. Also, it prevents accidental discharge. To me it would depend on the weapon and situation as to whether I'd roll loaded or none in chamber.... but if it was a striker fired gun like a Glock I'd lean to none in the chamber, if it was DA/SA I'd lean to loaded. If it was SHTF situation, loaded no matter what. I prefer Sigs personally, so I don't even own a handgun with a safety (actually, my buckmark does, but I don't count that as a real gun).

Let's see you unholster and chamber a round as someone is attacking you. You are worried that swiping a thumb safety off takes too long but you think you have the time to chamber a round? Learn how to use a thumb safety and you'd find out that it adds no time at all to your presentation.

[choprzrul]

Taurus PT911 9mm & it is on the roster until the middle of June.

Cocked & Locked w/Safety On:




Cocked w/Safety Off:




And lastly, spring loaded down to decock:

[Icypu]

I believe the HK USP and all the USG models of the FNP have the safety/decocker.

[Quiet]

Just the USPs or do any other HKs have them? I could (crossing fingers) be going into the Border Patrol in the near future pending my background investigation so I would be carrying the HK P2000.

FYI.
The .40S&W H&K P-2000 and .40S&W H&K P-2000SK that the US Border Patrols issues utilize the LEM trigger. So, they do not have a manual safety/decocker.

[Packy14]

Let's see you unholster and chamber a round as someone is attacking you. You are worried that swiping a thumb safety off takes too long but you think you have the time to chamber a round? Learn how to use a thumb safety and you'd find out that it adds no time at all to your presentation.

Like I said, I don't own a gun with a thumb safety, no interest in it either. If when I have a CCW i'll decide how I carry it.