Handgun Stolen..

[leitung]

Last night the owner of the security company I work for house got broken into and ransacked, among the many things stolen was my Hi-Point C9 9mm which I was loaning it to him to carry for a time as a guard. Once I heard that his house was broken into I rushed over there and waited for Sacramento Police and explained the situation, I didnt have the serial # on hand but today I got the DROS form and called the detective and gave him the serial this afternoon. So hopefully it gets found and nobody does anything stupid with it.

I tell you, I am stressed the hell out right now, I hope that they can find it. I don't care about the financial loss (I only paid $200 for it), I care about what that thing may be doing now or any trouble I could be in, which if I understand the law correctly I am in the clear.... Your thoughts?

[Mr310]

It seems as though you've done all you can do. It was reported stolen immediately and they know you're in the clear. It sucks. Definitely. Other than that, nothing you can do except maybe contact the insurance company after a set period of time.

[Spetsnazos]

I'm not sure you can just "loan" a handgun to your friend. That could be something like straw buying...

[Pugster]

IIRC, loaning the High Point to your friend should be fine if your friend already had a HSC and the loaning period was no more than 30 days (12078PC).

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-67245.html

[Spetsnazos]

IIRC, loaning the High Point to your friend should be fine if your friend already had a HSC and the loaning period was no more than 30 days (12078PC).

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-67245.html

do you get reviewed by the DOJ if you apply for a HSC? I don't think you do because I got my HSC the same day when I applied for it...

EDIT: What I'm saying is, how do you know that the person you are loaning to doesnt have a felony, isnt crazy, etc.

[NorCal Einstein]

do you get reviewed by the DOJ if you apply for a HSC? I don't think you do because I got my HSC the same day when I applied for it...

EDIT: What I'm saying is, how do you know that the person you are loaning to doesnt have a felony, isnt crazy, etc.

No you do not.

[Bill Carson]

I'm not sure you can just "loan" a handgun to your friend. That could be something like straw buying...

FUD

[Spetsnazos]

FUD

lol i guess the part about "I'm not sure" shoudl be emphasized.

What is considered a straw purchase then?

[ke6guj]

do you get reviewed by the DOJ if you apply for a HSC? I don't think you do because I got my HSC the same day when I applied for it...

no, there isn't a background check done when you get an HSC.

EDIT: What I'm saying is, how do you know that the person you are loaning to doesnt have a felony, isnt crazy, etc.

its not a requirement of the law that you have to background check him before you lend it to him, but if you KNOW that he is a prohibited person, then don't lend it to him.

12078(d)(1) Subdivision (d) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the infrequent loan of firearms between persons who are personally known to each other for any lawful purpose, if the loan does not exceed 30 days in duration and, when the firearm is a handgun, commencing January 1, 2003, the individual being loaned the handgun has a valid handgun safety certificate.

[Spetsnazos]

no, there isn't a background check done when you get an HSC.

its not a requirement of the law that you have to background check him before you lend it to him, but if you KNOW that he is a prohibited person, then don't lend it to him.

12078(d)(1) Subdivision (d) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the infrequent loan of firearms between persons who are personally known to each other for any lawful purpose, if the loan does not exceed 30 days in duration and, when the firearm is a handgun, commencing January 1, 2003, the individual being loaned the handgun has a valid handgun safety certificate.

sweet thanks for the info!!!

[NorCal Einstein]

What is considered a straw purchase then?

Say if you knew a friend could not legally purchase/have a handgun, and you purchased a gun FOR him...that's a straw purchase.

[SJgunguy24]

I'm sure if he loaned it to his friend for armed security duty, he has gone through a background and weapons training.

[Blackhawk556]

lol i guess the part about "I'm not sure" shoudl be emphasized.

What is considered a straw purchase then?

Say if you knew a friend could not legally purchase/have a handgun, and you purchased a gun FOR him...that's a straw purchase.

This!!!

loaning a firearm is a straw purchase

[BigDogatPlay]

I'm sure if he loaned it to his friend for armed security duty, he has gone through a background and weapons training.

Common sense prevails... a guard with an active permit to carry an exposed weapon is going to be good to go to carry on his job, assuming in this particular case he has 9mm on his permit.

For the OP, you've done your part and I am sorry for the loss of your goods. Yes it sucks to think about what that gun might be doing as we speak. This is why I don't loan my firearms to friends to take home and keep. But that's just a me thing.

[blazing]

hopefully they find it soon and no damage is done with it. it sucks to have any fire arm stolen.