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  • BLD
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 447

    Never cared much for Glocks, so I rented one today!

    I figured I'd share my thoughts on the Glock 21sf I rented today, and compare it to the XD and 1911 I took with me.

    In the past I've handled many Glocks at gun shops and never cared much for the way they felt in my hand. I've also shot a 19, 27 and a friends 35 that had a better trigger and a modified grip (I liked this one).

    I took my service model XD-9 (which I'm selling/trading) and my Ed Brown Special Forces with me.

    When they handed me the G 21sf the first thing I noticed was how dirty it was. There was so much carbon buildup on the muzzle you could barely make out the white on the front sight. The second thing I noticed was that when I leveled the pistol in front of me, the sights lined up perfectly on what I was pointing at. That doesn't even happen with my beloved EB.

    Now to the fun part, shooting. I wasted no time placing my target at 10 yds and loading up the Glock before I even unpacked my personal guns. The first two shots were low and to the left. I attribute this to the Glocks trigger. I'm used to the much lighter pull of my 1911s, and pulled the first two shots. After that I proceeded to place the next 18 shots in a nice tight group, with most of them creating one ragged hole. I went through my whole box of ammo in a matter of minutes, not really taking my time, but shooting how I do in matches. Once the sights are on the target, squeeze. After 50 rounds I only had 2 shots that were outside the outline of the B27 target (next to the neck).

    My thoughts. I was amazed at how the Glock had less felt recoil than my XD-9 or my EB. I don't understand why, but I did notice a difference. I shot more accurately with my EB, but that's the pistol I shoot the most with. The biggest thing I learned today was that while the Glocks feel terrible to me at the counter of a gun shop, I can't tell that they are uncomfortable when shooting rapidly. The only real gripes I have with the Glock I shot are the trigger, and the controversy surrounding shooting lead through a Glock.

    As far as the trigger goes, I do not mind the length of pull, or that the trigger stacks up. It is how hard the trigger breaks that I don't care for. My XD felt 10 times better, and more smooth than the Glock did (even if the trigger reset is a little longer).

    Regarding shooting lead through a Glock. The reason I rented the 21sf is because I shoot my 1911s in 3 gun and IDPA matches. The XD-9 doesn't knock down steel as well as my 1911s in 45 do. I reload only for 45 and load Bear Creek Supply bullets because they are extremely cheap. I realize that there are probably as many people who shoot lead through their Glocks as there are people who won't so I won't touch the subject, and I ask that you don't here either. Since I don't want to buy a new barrel, when I get my own G 21sf I'll just start loading plated or jacketed bullets for it.

    Over all I'm impressed with the pistols performance, and feel like a fool for trashing these pistols in the past. I should have spent more quality time with them before making a decision. In my defense I have changed shooting styles and preferences a bit since I first started shooting. I plan on selling my XD (as it just sits in the safe looking pathetic) and picking up a 21sf of my own. I'll also be springing for a 3.5lb connector to help with the stiff trigger. Like I said, I don't mind the length of pull or the trigger stacking, I just need to smoothen it out a little for me to truly like the way the Glock pistols shoot.
    "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks." -- Thomas Jefferson
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    dascoyne
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 729

    Welcome to our side. My 21sf is my nightstand gun and I love shooting it.
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    • #3
      jmzhwells
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 1111

      U really need to shoot a sig P220.
      Originally posted by bohoki
      oh man i think i threw up in my mouth a little
      Originally posted by Soldier415
      My staff is now at 10 beers, and has a tactical red lgt ont it, and is being ttached to me by a single point sling

      i AM THE WISEST MOST TACTICAL WIZARD

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      • #4
        21SF
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3491

        People don't shoot lead out of glock because the polygonal rifling. Aftermarket barrel and lead is gtg.
        SA TRP Half rail, Glock 21SF, Spikes St-15, Ruger Alaskan .44, Saiga 7.62, GSSF Member
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        Originally posted by keenkeen
        "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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        • #5
          kahai808
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 745

          I'll take the ED Brown off your hand
          Originally posted by OutlawDon
          The mission will drive the equipment choice. Choose wisely.

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          • #6
            ElvenSoul
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2008
            • 17431

            You are so contaminated wirh Glock Fever.
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            • #7
              BLD
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 447

              Originally posted by kahai808
              I'll take the ED Brown off your hand
              HA! not even if my life depended on it. My EB is not and never will be for sale. I'll sell a kidney before I sell that beauty off. Besides my wife bought it for me.

              Originally posted by 21SF
              People don't shoot lead out of glock because the polygonal rifling. Aftermarket barrel and lead is gtg.
              Thanks, I'm well aware of this, and have no desire to swap barrels (call me goofy, it wouldn't be the first time), nor do I want the lead vs no lead discussion to start here. A quick Google search and I realized another thread on that topic would be

              Originally posted by jmzhwells
              U really need to shoot a sig P220.
              That's the last thing I need. I've been doing everything in my power to stay away from the Sigs. I already know that I'll want one, but I need another platform like I need another hole in my head.

              Originally posted by dascoyne
              Welcome to our side. My 21sf is my nightstand gun and I love shooting it.
              That would be the dark side correct. That's the beauty of the Glocks right? I'll never love one like my 1911s or my wheel guns. They are a soulless piece of plastic that works well, besides if I ever have to use one in SD I won't cry when it ends up in an evidence locker for months on end. They can be replaced a lot easier than some of the pistols I have that are no longer manufactured (DW CBOB, S&W 38 from the 1940s)
              "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks." -- Thomas Jefferson

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              • #8
                BLD
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 447

                Originally posted by ElvenSoul
                You are so contaminated wirh Glock Fever.
                NO! I will not submit. It was hard enough to fight the desire to build every AK variant after my first. I've fought off the kalashna-virus so I'm sure I can keep this one contained. As long as they don't make a 45 like the G34/35, I think I'll be alright. I could be wrong though. It could be like when I told myself that I don't like 1911s. That went real well.
                "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                • #9
                  RollingCode3
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 3221

                  Originally posted by BLD
                  I figured I'd share my thoughts on the Glock 21sf I rented today, and compare it to the XD and 1911 I took with me.

                  In the past I've handled many Glocks at gun shops and never cared much for the way they felt in my hand. I've also shot a 19, 27 and a friends 35 that had a better trigger and a modified grip (I liked this one).

                  I took my service model XD-9 (which I'm selling/trading) and my Ed Brown Special Forces with me.

                  When they handed me the G 21sf the first thing I noticed was how dirty it was. There was so much carbon buildup on the muzzle you could barely make out the white on the front sight. The second thing I noticed was that when I leveled the pistol in front of me, the sights lined up perfectly on what I was pointing at. That doesn't even happen with my beloved EB.

                  Now to the fun part, shooting. I wasted no time placing my target at 10 yds and loading up the Glock before I even unpacked my personal guns. The first two shots were low and to the left. I attribute this to the Glocks trigger. I'm used to the much lighter pull of my 1911s, and pulled the first two shots. After that I proceeded to place the next 18 shots in a nice tight group, with most of them creating one ragged hole. I went through my whole box of ammo in a matter of minutes, not really taking my time, but shooting how I do in matches. Once the sights are on the target, squeeze. After 50 rounds I only had 2 shots that were outside the outline of the B27 target (next to the neck).

                  My thoughts. I was amazed at how the Glock had less felt recoil than my XD-9 or my EB. I don't understand why, but I did notice a difference. I shot more accurately with my EB, but that's the pistol I shoot the most with. The biggest thing I learned today was that while the Glocks feel terrible to me at the counter of a gun shop, I can't tell that they are uncomfortable when shooting rapidly. The only real gripes I have with the Glock I shot are the trigger, and the controversy surrounding shooting lead through a Glock.

                  As far as the trigger goes, I do not mind the length of pull, or that the trigger stacks up. It is how hard the trigger breaks that I don't care for. My XD felt 10 times better, and more smooth than the Glock did (even if the trigger reset is a little longer).

                  Regarding shooting lead through a Glock. The reason I rented the 21sf is because I shoot my 1911s in 3 gun and IDPA matches. The XD-9 doesn't knock down steel as well as my 1911s in 45 do. I reload only for 45 and load Bear Creek Supply bullets because they are extremely cheap. I realize that there are probably as many people who shoot lead through their Glocks as there are people who won't so I won't touch the subject, and I ask that you don't here either. Since I don't want to buy a new barrel, when I get my own G 21sf I'll just start loading plated or jacketed bullets for it.

                  Over all I'm impressed with the pistols performance, and feel like a fool for trashing these pistols in the past. I should have spent more quality time with them before making a decision. In my defense I have changed shooting styles and preferences a bit since I first started shooting. I plan on selling my XD (as it just sits in the safe looking pathetic) and picking up a 21sf of my own. I'll also be springing for a 3.5lb connector to help with the stiff trigger. Like I said, I don't mind the length of pull or the trigger stacking, I just need to smoothen it out a little for me to truly like the way the Glock pistols shoot.
                  Glock has low bore axis while XD is pretty high.

                  Now go get yourself a Glock...
                  Any gun owner who does not support the NRA is a freeloader.

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                  • #10
                    kahai808
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 745

                    Originally posted by BLD
                    HA! not even if my life depended on it. My EB is not and never will be for sale. I'll sell a kidney before I sell that beauty off. Besides my wife bought it for me.
                    I wouldnt get rid of it either!!!!! Thats a awesome wife!!!
                    Originally posted by OutlawDon
                    The mission will drive the equipment choice. Choose wisely.

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                    • #11
                      supersonic
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2007
                      • 5885

                      PM sent.......

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                      • #12
                        locosway
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 11346

                        There are many guns in the world, and most are far prettier than the Glock. But none can claim to be more reliable or better designed than a Glock. Yes, they're not for everyone, but you can't dismiss what they are and the purpose they serve.

                        Personally, I hate the look of my Glocks compared to other guns, but they more than makeup for their looks in the functionality, reliability, and price department.
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                        • #13
                          Reductio
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 1923

                          Welcome to the dark side.

                          Originally posted by RollingCode3
                          Glock has low bore axis while XD is pretty high.

                          Now go get yourself a Glock...
                          Oh come on, besides the obvious.
                          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                          Ah, the old "form over function" argument. I guess some people would rather be seen with a hot blonde who won't put out than with a "Neil 8" who will make you .

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                          • #14
                            Shenaniguns
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 6158

                            Great shooting gun >>> great feeling gun

                            But with the M&P you can have both
                            My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                            • #15
                              epilepticninja
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 4166

                              I've got a Glock 21 and I can't shoot it for shizz. My H&K USP .45 owns though. I love that gun. I bought the Glock mainly due to the hype, but I'm very disappointed with it. It's listed on my CCW, but I would never carry it. I don't trust hitting my target with it. I have no issues with my USP. It shoots great.
                              Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.

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