Long distance in State transfer question

[Paul_R]

There have been a couple of handgun trades I've been interested in here on calguns.

What is the process for PPT's of handguns when the two parties live at different ends of the State and can't meet FTF at a dealer?

TIA!

[ke6guj]

basically, you HAVE to do a FTF meet at a dealer to do a PPT. It if is shipped to the FFL, it isn't a PPT.

[morrcarr67]

There is a way to do it. Your FFL needs to be willing to do it. Send the Librarian a PM and he can tell you how to do it.

[Rudolf the Red]

There is a way to do it. Your FFL needs to be willing to do it. Send the Librarian a PM and he can tell you how to do it.

What could it be? Fly the seller/buyer into town for the sale? I doubt many FFL's will do it. Behold, what could be the way???

I don't want to know. Whatever it is has got to be high on the sketchy factor. Proably some manipulaton of a gun show sale. Or so I have heard in the past.

Pass.

[THE NEW GUY]

I just did a PPT and the third party dealer required both the buyer and sellers thumb print.

You got me stumped!

[odysseus]

There is a way to do it. Your FFL needs to be willing to do it. Send the Librarian a PM and he can tell you how to do it.

Is that code for something? Inquiring minds would like to know.

[morrcarr67]

Here it is. I was on my phone earlier and didn't have access to the info:

From: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...6&postcount=24

A "split PPT" appear to be runnable as "gun show transaction".

Calgunner/FFL 'mscale5' wrote about this year or two ago, I've appended here:

From http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...hlight=mscale5, (with a bit of reformatting from me):

If you are a CA PRIVATE PARTY and wish to sell your firearm to CA PRIVATE PARTY in another part
of the state you can have your firearm shipped to a FFL in the buyers area. Here is how you do this:

* Take your firearm to a FFL.


* Have (originating) FFL PRINT a DROS form for Gun Shows; he fills out the "Sellers Information" section
of the form and make a copy of your CA DL or ID card on the back - I also ask for the sellers' thumbprint
- and SWIPE the DL or ID, and print the info on the back of the form like for Gun Show transactions when
a computer isn't available.


* With this DROS filled out, the (originating) FFL can ship the firearm to the buyers' (destination) FFL and
the (rest of the) paperwork can be filled out. To do this, the (originating) FFL must ship the firearm as verification it is the firearm that came from that person. Shipping cost should be lower then the cost of driving to do the transfer.

This is how I was told by the DOJ to do this type of transaction.

[Rudolf the Red]

Ah yes, the "split PPT" lives again!. I stand with my earlier statement.

I don't want to know. Whatever it is has got to be high on the sketchy factor. Proably some manipulaton of a gun show sale. Or so I have heard in the past.

[Paul_R]

Thanks morrcarr67 I knew there was a way.


Shut up Rudolph!

[morrcarr67]

Thanks morrcarr67 I knew there was a way.

You're welcome. And good luck.

[Quiet]

Thanks morrcarr67 I knew there was a way.


Shut up Rudolph!

Last couple of years, CA DOJ BOF have been telling CA FFL dealers that the "split PPT" is not legal.