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  • Cali-Shooter
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2009
    • 9192

    Handgun PPT?

    Hello, I'm aware of how the state makes it so that when you buy a handgun directly thru the dealer (FFL), that the gun must be registered in your name and is registered to your current address of residence.

    But, that whole scheme doesn't apply to Private Party Transfers of handguns, correct? I am not clear as to whether PPT's of handguns are or are not registered by the state with your name and address like guns thru the dealer are. I know for sure that handgun PPT's are exempt from that awful 30 day waiting period between buying a handgun. If someone could clear up my inquiries, that would be awesome.
    In Glock We Trust.
    Originally posted by jeep7081
    My wife sleeps better knowing we have a zombie killer... Saiga AK47! Although my neighbor with his AR has restless nights.
    Originally posted by AleksandreCz
    Thank god the Federal Government is there to protect us from the Federal Government
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  • #2
    RollingCode3
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3221

    Every thing is the same except for the 1 per 30 days rule. What scheme?
    Any gun owner who does not support the NRA is a freeloader.

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    • #3
      NapaCountyShooter
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 2417

      The only ways that PPT is different than an FFL deal is no Sales tax on the cost of the weapon, no 30 day wait from the last dros, and the roster doesn't apply. There's no way to legally transfer a modern handgun in this state without registering it.
      Last edited by NapaCountyShooter; 02-05-2011, 5:00 PM.
      Jonah

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      • #4
        Cokebottle
        Señor Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2009
        • 32373

        Originally posted by NapaCountyShooter
        The only ways that PPT is different than an FFL deal is no Sales tax on the cost of the weapon, no 30 day wait from the last dros, and the roster doesn't apply. There's no way to legally transfer a handgun in this state without registering it.
        This.

        Covered all of the bases.
        - Rich

        Originally posted by dantodd
        A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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        • #5
          Cali-Shooter
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2009
          • 9192

          Originally posted by NapaCountyShooter
          The only ways that PPT is different than an FFL deal is no Sales tax on the cost of the weapon, no 30 day wait from the last dros, and the roster doesn't apply. There's no way to legally transfer a handgun in this state without registering it.
          Thanks for the clarification. You hit it right on the dot, it seems
          In Glock We Trust.
          Originally posted by jeep7081
          My wife sleeps better knowing we have a zombie killer... Saiga AK47! Although my neighbor with his AR has restless nights.
          Originally posted by AleksandreCz
          Thank god the Federal Government is there to protect us from the Federal Government
          WTS: Revision 'Desert Locust' tactical Ballistic/Protective eyewear goggles NEW & USED pairs
          http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=737563

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          • #6
            BayAreaShooter
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2010
            • 5054

            Originally posted by NapaCountyShooter
            The only ways that PPT is different than an FFL deal is no Sales tax on the cost of the weapon, no 30 day wait from the last dros, and the roster doesn't apply. There's no way to legally transfer a handgun in this state without registering it.
            I though Cap and Ball pistols were cash and carry. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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            • #7
              NapaCountyShooter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 2417

              Haha. You've got me there. I'll amend to say a modern handgun.
              Jonah

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              • #8
                BayAreaShooter
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2010
                • 5054

                Originally posted by NapaCountyShooter
                Haha. You've got me there. I'll amend to say a modern handgun.
                Gotcha
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                • #9
                  j.primo
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 1139

                  C&R handguns also need to go through an FFL for PPT. Unless you have a C&R license? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, so I'll know the definate answer.
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                  • #10
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44680

                    The summary:

                    Read this: http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in..._in_California

                    The implementation of PPT is CA or military ID (with permanent change of station orders to CA) only, both buyer and seller at the same FFL.

                    INSIDE CA, C&R handguns are just handguns - sales must go through FFL.

                    OUTSIDE CA, if you have a C&R license you can buy handguns, and when you come back to CA you tell the state (file the form, pay the fee).

                    CAP AND BALL, muzzle loaders and such (legal definition is longer than that) are not firearms for the buying and selling part - but they ARE firearms for carrying; different parts of Penal Code treat them differently.
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                    • #11
                      NapaCountyShooter
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2417

                      Originally posted by BayAreaShooter
                      Gotcha
                      If you can mail order it from Cabela's, you're good to go. Don't let the gangbangers find out about this or they'll start pulling drivebys with cap & balls. After that, it's only a matter of time till the media starts calling them Glocks and AK's.
                      Jonah

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                      • #12
                        Cokebottle
                        Señor Member
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 32373

                        Originally posted by j.primo
                        C&R handguns also need to go through an FFL for PPT. Unless you have a C&R license? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, so I'll know the definate answer.
                        All handguns (other than front-stuffers) manufactured after 1898 must go through an FFL to be transferred within or into California with two exceptions.
                        1 - An 03FFL may travel out of state and purchase a C&R handgun, then bring it home with him. He must declare and register the gun after getting home.
                        2 - No FFL is needed for an in-state intrafamilial transfer. Again, simple declaration (and $19) is all that is needed.
                        - Rich

                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                        • #13
                          DVIII
                          Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 420

                          Here's a scenario I need assistance on:

                          I desire a handgun not on the roster.
                          I do not own any handguns.
                          My brother who is a resident of another State can legally purchase the handgun in his name.
                          I would like him to PPT to me.

                          What obstacles do I have?

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                          • #14
                            Cali-Shooter
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 9192

                            Originally posted by DVIII
                            Here's a scenario I need assistance on:

                            I desire a handgun not on the roster.
                            I do not own any handguns.
                            My brother who is a resident of another State can legally purchase the handgun in his name.
                            I would like him to PPT to me.

                            What obstacles do I have?
                            Read this page: http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...ually_apply.3F
                            In Glock We Trust.
                            Originally posted by jeep7081
                            My wife sleeps better knowing we have a zombie killer... Saiga AK47! Although my neighbor with his AR has restless nights.
                            Originally posted by AleksandreCz
                            Thank god the Federal Government is there to protect us from the Federal Government
                            WTS: Revision 'Desert Locust' tactical Ballistic/Protective eyewear goggles NEW & USED pairs
                            http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=737563

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                            • #15
                              DVIII
                              Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 420

                              Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                              So brother = immediate family. good.
                              He must GIFT it to me.
                              He needs to ship it to an FFL that will accept non-FFL
                              "Note that this is still an interstate transfer, and the FFL may charge any fee for this service he may think appropriate."
                              I need to find an FFL who will accept from a non-FFL and wont rape me.

                              That about it?

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