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  • #16
    Munk
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2124

    Originally posted by wamphyri13
    Sure, everybody jump on me. As far as being blind leading the blind, thanks for your courtesy. I understood it to be that the container, locked or not, had to be inaccessible to the cabin. Which would be the trunk. The trunk also constitutes a locked container. Since the vehicle in question has no trunk, usually locked container stays in rear cargo area. When my friend and I go to the range in his Grand Cherokee, everything is locked up and in the rear of the vehicle. Obviously, I was wrong about that part. But, it's better to err on the side of caution, don't you think?

    As a gun owner, I find it constantly frustrating keeping on top of all the laws to keep myself out of trouble. While my information may have been somewhat wrong, at least I can't get in any trouble for it being wrong. That's a good kinda wrong in my book.
    Ryan
    Your information is just a matter of being overcautious. The "out of reach" thing is a popular bit of FUD spread by a number of police, gunstores, and even the odd pamphlet or two. There's no requirement that it be out of reach... just the basics of Locked Container (any kind that isn't your glovebox or "utility compartment"), and Unloaded. As long as those two criteria are met, you're good to go. You can have ammo, loaded mags, multiple guns, whatever else in the vault so long as the container is locked and there's no loaded mag in the magwell (and a clear chamber as well).

    Note for those who use trunk as locked container: Many trunks are accessible THROUGH the backseat either by folding, or a little hatch. If you can't disable the in-cab opening mechanism (my mazda has a lever you can flip for this), then it's not really a locked container since it's just a pull-tab, lever, button, whatever that is used to open it.

    Going above and beyond like wamphyri13 isn't entirely out of place. If you do have an encounter with a LEO, then it will put them more at ease if they see the container is out of reach, but it isn't a legal requirement, just a courtesy.
    Originally posted by greasemonkey
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    • #17
      Oceanbob
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2010
      • 12720

      I use a simple

      Briefcase that I bought at Staples for $30. It has a combo lock on each side; leatherette on the outside. It travels locked in the front of my car. If I am in a bad part of town it sits on the passenger seat next to me. I carry a folded newspaper (to prevent stuff from rattling around) a few odds and ends; a flashlilte and a Glock 20 with 2 separate magazines (full of Double Tap).

      For jolly's I also have a copy of my purchase receipt and DROS paperwork on the GLOCK. This is folded up and in the pouch of the lid. You never know if you have to prove (avoid delays) you legally own the weapon.

      I am constantly surprised at the FUD gun store employee's spread. Include the bad info some LEO have as well. I am considering printing off info from the WIKI site and adding that to the Gun ownership papers as well. Using a hi-lighter to augment the appropriate statute.
      May the Bridges I burn light the way.

      Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

      Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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      • #18
        viet4lifeOC
        Veteran Member
        • May 2010
        • 4888

        thanks everyone for the information and links.

        I do have a Pelican 1550 case cruzer 6 handgun case. A beautiful and well laid out case worth every penny. I just wanted something special for the TRS. Also, something small, metal, and able to carry around, and easily accessible those keypads.

        Great suggestion..I'll probably make copies of my receipt and DROS paperwork.

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        • #19
          ColdDeadHands1
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 3391

          I will also add that if you are going to get the Gunvault, search ebay for the model # and I can almost guarantee the best price there.


          "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco?"

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