GLOCK vs XD

[rrr70]

That video was a joke. jeez.

[Breadfan]

NO the XD is better


[QUOTE=Group 4;5106361]So the Glock is better, right?[/QUOT

[FNH5-7]

NO the XD is better

How so?

[themailman]

Can I re-post the infamous "Double Glock?"

My dahbbel Glahck. I ahways carry it wif me so no one can get meh.

[Ultimate]

There are specific things about the Glock professionals like, that the "Glock Killers" have all failed to accomplish. They focused on the end users main complaints, that the Glock is too boxy looking and not very comfortable to hold. Both valid complaints. However, they did not match the Glock's performance because they overlooked the very things that make the Glock the first choice for so many professionals who actually have a choice.

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Sorry dude, but even a huge glock fan such as yourself have to admit ergonomics are a huge attribute to performance. Therefore, manufacturers that cater to that particular MAJOR complaint about the glock are in effect providing certain users with better performance.

Sure you can train yourself to be proficient with a gun that feels wrong but that also contradicts your statement about how the glock makes it easier to train with. If the ergonomics are right for the shooter, the training will be much lighter and better focused and in a stressful situation you are more likely to be effective.

I don't bench shoot. I don't compete.

But your whole if-you-bench-rest-shoot-then-you-can-have-an-inferior-gun-instead-of-the-glock simply does not hold water, for if the ergonomics are totally wrong you are more likely to bench shoot the pistol adequately and be blind to its deficiencies.

While if the pistol has perfect user ergonomics then you are more likely to be accurate in a standing natural position. That is one of the reasons you get a lot of people who praise the 1911 accuracy and only a few who totally can't get with it.

Also on another note because a lot of people like to throw LEO adoption as a bible or a reason for a gun's merits and that is simply not the case. LE agencies are run like corporations and whoever makes the best business case wins.

The front wheel drive impala was adopted in LE agencies accross the nation despite its deficiencies as an effective chase vehicle compared to the crown vic. And before that LE agencies adopted the crown vic despite the Chevy caprice's superiority for police duty. Business cases, nothing else.

[elSquid]

The XD sights are high-up on the slide, resulting in height over bore issues. Something usually associated with long rifles. Your point of aim point of impact noticably changes within CQB distances. Where your point of aim point of impact is, changes radically as you get closer, more so than you would expect. If the sights were lower, and closer to the bore like on the Glock this would be a non-issue. Again, you can train through this problem. However, almost no shooters do. They just rely on plinking at a bench rest only range. Which means they have no idea the problem even exists, or how to compensate for it.

So I'm sitting here with a stock XD9 Tactical and a stock G34. I pulled the slides and have set them upside down on the table, side by side. Looking from the muzzle end, it appears that there isn't that much difference between the two. If anything, the G34s bore is a half an mm lower ( "worse" ) than the XD. Now the XDs slide is slightly taller than the Glocks, but that apparently has no effect on the bore/top of the slide/sight distance.

What guns did you compare, and what was the difference?

-- Michael

[tbhracing]

Can I re-post the infamous "Double Glock?"

The Double Glock video will always rule!

[Regulus]

Again, I have to ask why? Give me some specific examples of what makes it a better choice for you? You always see lots of people say they like something over a Glock, but cannot spell out what exactly makes it a better choice for them...

Since the video mentions the similarities between the Glock and P7 grip angle, and they are both striker fire handguns, here is why a P7 is a better choice for me:

Safer to handle, ensures a deliberate and concious decision to fire, faster to reload/fire, fixed barrel, lowest bore axis, can eject spent casings without an extractor, no racking to re-cock in case of a light strike, can be disabled by removing the firing pin in less than 2 seconds, it's not fugly, mentally inferior people do not make double P7 video's and post them on the internet.

[morfeeis]

It's a serious business

First time i've seen that, that was great.
"i hope you die in a fire" priceless........

[BOFH]

Re: GLOCK vs XD

I don't care which one is "better" but I do have a XD with about 10K rounds through it that I can shoot very well. I am very comfortable with it and would not hesitate to use it to defend my life. If you like something else...good for you

[Shenaniguns]

Since the video mentions the similarities between the Glock and P7 grip angle, and they are both striker fire handguns, here is why a P7 is a better choice for me:

Safer to handle, ensures a deliberate and concious decision to fire, faster to reload/fire, fixed barrel, lowest bore axis, can eject spent casings without an extractor, no racking to re-cock in case of a light strike, can be disabled by removing the firing pin in less than 2 seconds, it's not fugly, mentally inferior people to not make double P7 video's and post them on the internet.

And heats up to the point you'll get burned in less than 50 rounds rapid fire. Try using that for a 600 round a day class lol

[fullrearview]

My 1st preference of any pistol is a P226....Im not an expert on firearms by any means, but feel is everything to me. Im a point shooter. I used my sights when I have time, but being an LEO, when do we ever have the upperhand? Only in tactical operations, and then, guess what???? I have a long gun!

I just bought my xdm 3.8 and it feels right in my hands. I only shot 50 rounds from it and it was at about 70 yards up hill at steel. Right away I was shooting it better than my duty usp40. The usp does not feel right. I have yet to shoot a gun better than a p226, but thats me, which brings me to my next point.....

WE ARE ALL MADE DIFFERENT!!!!

What works for Tactical city, doesnt work for me. With my shooting style (VERY dynamic), I do not shoot the glock well. Its the grip angle, primarly. I have shot a xd40 service before, and did really well with it. Almost as well as the p226. The glock, almost all of my shots were low.

If you shoot better with the glock, buy. If you shoot better with other weapons, buy that one.

[Regulus]

And heats up to the point you'll get burned in less than 50 rounds rapid fire. Try using that for a 600 round a day class lol

Right... That's why I have more than 1 P7 for training!

While an LEO, I never carried more than 2 spare magazines (on duty or off).
Seriously, who carries 600 rounds with them for self-defense?

[Shenaniguns]

Right... That's why I have more than 1 P7 for training!

While an LEO, I never carried more than 2 spare magazines (on duty or off).
Seriously, who carries 600 rounds with them for self-defense?

Where did I say one would carry that much? IMO you should train with what you carry and the last class I took was around 1200 rounds for 2days. Besides I get slide bite with the P7.

[Gryff]