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  • boink
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 310

    Purchasing a Handgun Frame from a Private Party

    I have a question for the FFL familiar.

    I'm going to purchase a Beretta M9 Commercial (on roster) from a private seller in Georgia, but this is only the complete frame, no slide.

    Someone mentioned to me that if you buy it without the upper, that it is no longer a roster pistol. Is this true, and am I screwed? Please let me know (I already paid the guy)!!

    Roster:
    M9 Commercial / Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.9" 9mm 6/17/2011
    | Sig P226R Navy | Sig P225 Polizei | Sig P220 W.German |
    | Beretta M9 | Beretta 92FS Brig INOX |
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    OneSevenDeuce
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2288

    I have never heard anyone say that before. It doesn't make sense to me since the frame has the serial number and is considered the "firearm". Has your local FFL already accepted it for delivery?
    What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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    • #3
      boink
      Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 310

      Originally posted by OneSevenDeuce
      I have never heard anyone say that before. It doesn't make sense to me since the frame has the serial number and is considered the "firearm". Has your local FFL already accepted it for delivery?
      I sent an email to my main-man FFL, so I'll see what he says. The seller has not shipped it yet. I can see if it was an off roster, but we'll see.

      Worst comes to worst, I have an entire Upper and barrel, and I'll ship it to the guy to install before he sends it to my FFL
      | Sig P226R Navy | Sig P225 Polizei | Sig P220 W.German |
      | Beretta M9 | Beretta 92FS Brig INOX |

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      • #4
        OneSevenDeuce
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 2288

        I'm going to really be surprised if this is a problem for you. I have never seen any law or anything associated with the roster that would suggest that it becomes off roster if it doesn't have the slide attached. Ima just call it bull right now.
        What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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        • #5
          brassburnz
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 3553

          I've purchased a couple of 1911 frames. If they were complete guns, they would not be on the roster (Caspian and Remsport). Didn't have any probems at all with a FTF transfer. Don't know what's going to happen with your M9.

          Randy
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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            If it's shipped it needs to be on the approved list.
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            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #7
              OneSevenDeuce
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 2288

              Originally posted by Quiet
              If it's shipped it needs to be on the approved list.
              Missed the question?
              What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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              • #8
                boink
                Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 310

                Originally posted by Quiet
                If it's shipped it needs to be on the approved list.
                It is on the roster, it will just be shipped without the slide/barrel.
                | Sig P226R Navy | Sig P225 Polizei | Sig P220 W.German |
                | Beretta M9 | Beretta 92FS Brig INOX |

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                • #9
                  Rekrab
                  Valar Dohaeris
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • May 2009
                  • 5534

                  Try asking down in the FFL forum if no one answers you soon.

                  That does strike me as a bit of a wild question. Never heard of someone trying to transfer an ON-list frame.
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                  • #10
                    BostonFan
                    Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 256

                    Just curious where did you find the guy with the frame?

                    Gunbroker?

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                    • #11
                      boink
                      Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 310

                      So I spoke with my FFL:

                      "Since it is a frame only, it is not on the roster and cannot be transfered to you by a CA dealer from out of state. What some people do is send the seller a complete slide, then have him ship you back a complete rostered handgun. This is perfectly legal"

                      Shoot. I have a complete upper, I'll ship it to him.

                      Originally posted by BostonFan
                      Just curious where did you find the guy with the frame?

                      Gunbroker?
                      Berettaforum
                      | Sig P226R Navy | Sig P225 Polizei | Sig P220 W.German |
                      | Beretta M9 | Beretta 92FS Brig INOX |

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        Originally posted by boink
                        So I spoke with my FFL:

                        "Since it is a frame only, it is not on the roster and cannot be transfered to you by a CA dealer from out of state. What some people do is send the seller a complete slide, then have him ship you back a complete rostered handgun. This is perfectly legal"
                        yup, this. That is why some of the custom 1911 vendors offer 1 or 2 rostered 1911 models. You buy that model and then after DROS, you send it back to the manufacturer to have remade the way you want it. But it is initially bought as a complete firearm. They don't just sell your the frame for one of the rostered models and then have you send it back to have parts installed onto it.
                        Jack



                        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                        • #13
                          OneSevenDeuce
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 2288

                          Originally posted by boink
                          So I spoke with my FFL:

                          "Since it is a frame only, it is not on the roster and cannot be transfered to you by a CA dealer from out of state. What some people do is send the seller a complete slide, then have him ship you back a complete rostered handgun. This is perfectly legal"

                          Shoot. I have a complete upper, I'll ship it to him.
                          No kidding? You learn something new everyday.
                          What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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