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  • #31
    Greg-Dawg
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 7793

    I have 3 Glocks in .40S&W and one in 9mm. Be like me.

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    • #32
      HCz
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 3295

      Originally posted by Greg-Dawg
      I have 3 Glocks in .40S&W and one in 9mm. Be like me.
      no. I do not want Hello Kitty stuff.

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      • #33
        tacticalcity
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Aug 2006
        • 10916

        Good to hear, as I was not all that impressed with the orignal RTF surfaces. I'm looking forward to getting to play with the GEN 4 GLOCK someday.

        Oh, and I just read somebody's recommendation of getting a 22lr to learn on. While I understand the logic behind this very common recommendation, I strongly disogree with it. It is a really old argument, and I am sure I will never change that persons mind, but I subscribe to a completely different theory.

        Instead, I strongly recommend the 9mm with its relatively manageble recoil, and then taking a professional handgun course like Tactical Pistol I offered right here in Sacramento by Stone Cobra Tactical Training http://www.stonecobra.com. They will teach you to train dry (no ammo) for roughly 1/3 of each training session as well as at home. Those drills will be much more useful for mastering trigger control than running a 22lr. As you train on your own, and you see yourself slipping you empty your firearm and practice those drills by the numbers so you can see where you are going wrong and iron out your fundamentals. Once you are more than satisfied, you go live again and the improvement is remarkable.

        It is a completely different school of thought for those that favor the .22lr, but one I very strongly believe in. That is how I learned. It worked really well for me and I strongly recommend it.

        I have ZERO love for the .22lr. In my mind it is just wasted time and effort.
        Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-16-2010, 4:10 PM.

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        • #34
          Whatisthis?
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 1820

          Originally posted by tempdrummer
          17 plus an advantage arms .22 conversion is my favorite range setup. I get lots of trigger time with the .22 then switching to 9mm is still fairly cheap to practice for hd use.
          This is exactly what I'm going to do. If you have a little extra money, then I would say go with the .40 and get a 9mm conversion barrel and a .22 kit. I'm not going to do that because I don't have money sitting around. Do keep in mind, as someone else has mentioned above, that there can be some issues with FTE if you get a .40 with a 9mm conversion barrel.

          EDIT: also, if you just get a 9mm with a .22 conversion, you will have an excuse later on to get another gun in a different caliber.

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          • #35
            Greg-Dawg
            Banned
            • Oct 2006
            • 7793

            Here's my G17G4.

            Originally posted by HCz
            no. I do not want Hello Kitty stuff.
            Yes you do:




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            • #36
              masayuki
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 21

              .22 is out of the question as this will most importantly be an HD gun.

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              • #37
                Greg-Dawg
                Banned
                • Oct 2006
                • 7793

                The FoTays:






                The unreliable 40-9:

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                • #38
                  barca101
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 577

                  TacticalCity is right, if you have to choose a caliber choose the 9mm. My favorite model is the Glock 19. When LC Action had Glock day last month, there were 2 Glock armorers there that I spoke to. I had my 19 inspected and the NY trigger changed out to a 5 lb trigger. He said that the 19 was probably the best versatile handgun that glock made because its between a fullsize and a compact. They even showed me their OD 19 that they had on. Currently I carry a dept issued Glock 17 and I think its to big. I recently qualified with my personal 19 that I will be carry on/off duty and I scored better with it than the 17. If you have to buy a 9mm buy a dedicated caliber.

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                  • #39
                    fullspeed1
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1908

                    Originally posted by novabrian
                    Glock 19 or 17.
                    +1
                    The Glock platform was designed for a 9mm. I've owned a 17 and 2 19's, and prefer the compact's. Both my 19's have Warren tactical sights, Which is all they needed.

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                    • #40
                      Echidin
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 3072

                      Originally posted by masayuki
                      In about two weeks I will buy a glock for range shooting and HD. This will be my 2nd gun but my first handgun. I have decided on either the G17 or G22. The 9mm seems very practical but the .40 seems like more fun to shoot. Also it seems like I could drop a 9mm barrel in the G22 if I go that route. Additionally, I want nightsights. Should I go with Glock factory nightsights, or should I go with some Trijicon sights? I live in Sacramento and I don't know who I could get to install non-factory sights. I really appreciate any advice I can get because I am a handgun noob. Thanks!
                      Drop in the 9mm conversion barrel and pick up a few 9mm magazines and you're good to go.

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                      • #41
                        tempdrummer
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 833

                        I think you missed the point of the .22. It's so you can practice cheaply with the gun rather than throwing tons of 9mm down the range. When I shoot I'd rather fire 300 rounds of .22 then switch slides and fire 100 rounds of 9mm than shoot 400 rounds of 9mm just for "practice". The .22 kits pay for themselves. My opinion of course. Go 17 either way

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                        • #42
                          Cuda440
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 3289

                          If you're looking for a HD gun, my vote is for 357 sig. The ammo can be found for the same price as 40 s&w, but it packs a much bigger punch. I agree that shot placement is more important than ballistics, but if I have a less than perfect shot, I want the meanest round possible to make contact. A 22 will kill a bad guy with perfect shot placement, but nobody seems to use a 22 as a HD gun, wonder why? With the same knockdown power as the 357 mag, the 357 sig is an impressive round that is much more effective against body armor and crackheads than a 9 or 40. Just my $0.02
                          Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

                          Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #43
                            Alvin Tostig
                            Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 148

                            Hey, I have an unreliable 40-9 too! Switching to the 9mm ejector helped a little, but not enough. I ended up buying a second Glock in 9mm.

                            If you want to shoot 9, buy a 9.
                            If you want to shoot 40, buy a 40.
                            If you're intent on shooting both, try starting with 9mm and take it from there... I wish I had.

                            Last edited by Alvin Tostig; 09-16-2010, 6:42 PM.

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                            • #44
                              BamBam-31
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 5318

                              Originally posted by tacticalcity
                              The checking on the USP covers the sides. Owned one for many years. There is a small area near the front on both sides without it, but it is a very small area when compared to the amount of surface area covered with the rough surface.

                              While it might have be more agressive on the USP, it is only just barely more pronounced. The RTF has rubbed my hands just as raw after an 8 hour day of intense training more than once. It is not a major sticking point for me. I am fine using either. I just feel it is worth mentioning it is not the most comfortable grip in the world. Your hands with adapt to it.

                              If you get a better deal on the GEN 3 (or vice versa) then go with the one that is the better deal. You will not regret the decision either way. Both work great. It is a very minor consideration.
                              Huh? I owned a HK USP40F for years as well. If memory serves, the complaints were about the ultra-sharp front and back strap checkering, as seen more clearly in these alternate colored frames:



                              The side panels were nothing to write home about, prolly a shade rougher than Glock Gen 3 side panels, but that's about it. It was always about the cheese grater checkering.

                              Then again, I'm one of those skateboard tape kinda guys. I dig the RTF.

                              As for .22lr's, the OP would be VERY well served to invest in one for learning. A complete .22lr gun costs as much as a conversion kit, so I'd go that route (but an AA kit would be pretty good as well). Nothing helped me shrink my pizza-sized pistol groups down to coin-sized groups like dry fire and shooting my .22lr's.
                              Last edited by BamBam-31; 09-16-2010, 7:22 PM.
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                              • #45
                                viet4lifeOC
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 4888

                                Originally posted by Dubels
                                Glock 35 + 9mm barrel & Mags + AA Conversion Kit.
                                With many helpful advice from fellow calgunners--this is what I did.

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